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		<title>Ken Wilber&#8217;s breadth and its importance</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the past couple months I&#8217;ve been busy writing a critique of Ken Wilber&#8216;s thought on &#8220;religion&#8221;, to be submitted to the journal devoted to his thought. I&#8217;ve been critical of Wilber before, and that article will be no different. In the next week or two I expect to post about some further criticisms that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ken-Wilber.jpg"><img src="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ken-Wilber-199x300.jpg" alt="" title="Ken Wilber" width="199" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2260" /></a>For the past couple months I&#8217;ve been busy writing a critique of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/ken-wilber/">Ken Wilber</a>&#8216;s thought on &#8220;religion&#8221;, to be submitted to the <a href="http://aqaljournal.integralinstitute.org/Public/">journal</a> devoted to his thought. I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/how-not-to-think-dialectically/">critical</a> of Wilber <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilber-and-aurobindo-on-intelligent-design/">before</a>, and that article will be no different. In the next week or two I expect to post about some further criticisms that the article didn&#8217;t have room for.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t want all these criticisms to make it sound like I think Wilber&#8217;s thought is silly, fruitless or otherwise wrong-headed. Quite the opposite. I engage with Wilber&#8217;s ideas this much precisely because his project is so important and valuable. Granted, his writings don&#8217;t stand up well to either analytic or continental <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2012/01/assessing-philosophy/">assessment</a>: his arguments are sometimes maddeningly imprecise, and his readings of other thinkers tend strongly to the superficial. But what Wilber lacks in precision and depth, he makes up for in <em>breadth</em>. <span id="more-2259"></span></p>
<p>For the thing about both the analytic and continental standards of assessment is that they are both generated in the context of contemporary academia &#8211; and that is a context that gives out all its rewards to those who <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/12/academias-details/">think small</a>. When good work is considered to be that which gets the details exactly right, it&#8217;s much easier to generate endless articles saying new things, because there are so many new details to talk about. The nonacademic book publishing industry has its own problematic incentives, but they are not the same ones. They don&#8217;t push authors to precise nitpicky detail in the same way; and that&#8217;s a valuable counterbalance to academia. I do think academia&#8217;s details <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/11/philosophical-single-mindedness-2/">matter a lot</a>. But they matter <em>because</em> they are part of a larger whole. We will not really be able to make sense of the world and our lives if we can&#8217;t understand what that whole is, how everything fits together. And that&#8217;s where Wilber comes in. </p>
<p>Wilber&#8217;s project is an audacious one: to integrate all the different realms of human knowledge, including the &#8220;great wisdom traditions&#8221; like Buddhism and Christianity. He tries hard to bring together &#8220;religion&#8221; and science, and he understands that philosophy has a key role in that process.</p>
<p>It would be one thing to make a mere catalogue of these different kinds of knowledge, a road map to the most important books. That much has been done before. Wilber, by contrast, actually tries to consider the <em>truth</em> of the ideas he studies. And not just in terms of declaring them true or declaring them false, but trying to <em>find the truth in</em> all of them. He proclaims, rightly I think, that &#8220;no human mind can produce 100% error.&#8221; And more than that: when an idea comes to last across multiple generations, that suggests there is particular truth to it &#8211; it&#8217;s not tied to the madness of one particular clique or the whimsy of one era, but is reinvented with every new birth who take it up and find it valuable for explaining the world and our place in it. Somehow, the ideas need to go together.</p>
<p>This approach too has been taken before to some extent. G.W.F. Hegel tried harder than most. While I think Hegel was more methodologically sophisticated than Wilber, there is a lot missing from Hegel&#8217;s synthesis. Science, especially, has changed a lot, making Hegel&#8217;s <a href="http://www.gwfhegel.org/Nature/">philosophy of nature</a> difficult to accept; so too, Hegel&#8217;s thought has no room for the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/10/the-singular-achievement-of-the-20th-century/">shining achievement</a> of the 20th century, namely feminism and the liberation of women. And while Hegel at least attempted to include Asian philosophies in his synthesis, in a way that few had before, they were <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/hegel-in-space/">stuck</a> at the earliest and lowest level of his philosophy, making Hegel &#8220;strong with respect to time and weak with respect to space&#8221;. All of these vast gaps in Hegel&#8217;s thought &#8211; science, feminism, Asian philosophy &#8211; Wilber has tried hard to give a central place in his thought. His attempted synthesis is the widest one I know of &#8211; much more so than that of, say, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/mou-zongsans-theories-across-cultures/">Mou Zongsan</a>, who says little if anything about Judaism or Advaita Vedānta, let alone feminism and science. Wilber gives us some vision of what a unified synthesis now <em>could</em> look like.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t accept most of the contours of the synthesis Wilber comes up with, but some of the concepts that make it up have been very valuable to my reflection, especially <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">ascent and descent</a> and the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/pre-and-trans-ego/">pre-trans fallacy</a>. And beyond the particular concepts, the nature of the project itself is particularly valuable in the era of detail-obsessed academia. Philologists and analytic philosophers usually can&#8217;t see the forest for the trees. Wilber&#8217;s sweeping generalizations give him the opposite problem: he has a hard time getting the whole forest because he doesn&#8217;t understand the trees that make it up. But when the structures of textual production today lead so overwhelmingly to a focus on nitpicky details with no larger context, Wilber&#8217;s problem is a good one for a thinker to have. </p>
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		<title>The importance of assumptions</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Reidy and the recently returned Thill raise an important point in response to last week&#8217;s post, on the assessment of philosophy from analytic and &#8220;continental&#8221; perspectives. I argued that analytic philosophy judges philosophical on argument and continental philosophy on the depth of interpretation &#8211; interpretation &#8220;that could explain not merely what Kant [for example] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ombhurbhuva.blogspot.com/">Michael Reidy</a> and the recently returned <a href="http://thebaloneydetective.com/">Thill</a> raise an important point in response to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2012/01/assessing-philosophy/">last week&#8217;s post</a>, on the assessment of philosophy from analytic and &#8220;continental&#8221; perspectives. I argued that analytic philosophy judges philosophical on argument and continental philosophy on the depth of interpretation &#8211; interpretation &#8220;that could explain not merely what Kant [for example] said, but why he said it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2012/01/assessing-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-11875">responded</a> that the two were not likely to be so far apart in practice: &#8220;You can hardly develop a credible problematique without knowing some details.&#8221; Thill <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2012/01/assessing-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-11877">responded</a> that this depth of interpretation necessarily &#8220;involves also an explanation of Kant’s argument for his views or claims!!!&#8230; What else could &#8216;why he said it&#8217; mean or refer to?&#8221; </p>
<p>Thill&#8217;s question appears to be intended as rhetorical (especially given the laughs that precede and follow it in his comment). But it shouldn&#8217;t be. <span id="more-2240"></span> There is always much more to the reasons a philosopher says anything than the arguments that she makes for it. Certainly the arguments matter. They always do. But they are not the only thing that matters. Michael is right that depth of interpretation requires a serious attention to detail &#8211; but arguments are not the only details.</p>
<p>So what else could we be speaking of here, other than arguments? I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too hard to imagine what that could be. An argument consists of premises leading to a conclusion. But where do those premises come from? Sometimes from other arguments &#8211; but not always. We can follow a chain of reasoning back from one argument to another argument to another, but eventually it&#8217;s going to stop somewhere. There will be a premise that is simply asserted &#8211; or at least as often, and this is particularly important, a premise that is not even stated but merely assumed. And if one merely understands the structure of a thinker&#8217;s arguments but not the <em>assumptions</em> that underlie them, one will not have understood that thinker.</p>
<p>I should note that there&#8217;s nothing inherently <em>wrong</em> with an assumed premise, or one asserted without argument. Indeed, one has to do it at some point; one cannot say everything, or one would run out of space. It&#8217;s just that if one is going to assume or assert a premise successfully, it must be an assumption that is <em>shared</em> by one&#8217;s intended audience. That&#8217;s the point that is typically missed by overeager campus missionaries: you are not going to get anywhere by telling me that Jesus is God&#8217;s only son because the Bible says so, since I don&#8217;t accept your assumption that the Bible as an authority on that matter. If I did, your argument would be sound; but I don&#8217;t, so it isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Within analytic philosophy, when these shared assumptions are highlighted it is usually with the term <em>intuition</em>. I find that term <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/against-moral-intuitions/">highly inappropriate</a>, because it suggests that these &#8220;intuitions&#8221; are something more than mere shared assumptions. But it&#8217;s not wrong to ground one&#8217;s arguments in those shared assumptions that get <em>called</em> &#8220;intuitions&#8221; &#8211; simply because, again, one has to start somewhere. On the &#8220;continental&#8221; side this point was one of <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/gadamer/">Gadamer</a>&#8216;s key insights: new knowledge is always measured against the &#8220;prejudices&#8221; (<em>Vorurteilen</em>) we already have. (I find Gadamer&#8217;s &#8220;prejudices&#8221;, or Martha Nussbaum&#8217;s &#8220;prevalent ordinary beliefs&#8221; &#8211; a term derived with reference to Aristotle&#8217;s <em>phainomena</em> &#8211; all much more appropriate terms than &#8220;intuitions&#8221;. For the purposes of this discussion, I think it&#8217;s fine to call them &#8220;assumptions&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Now where all of this gets us into trouble is when we start dealing with thinkers who <em>don&#8217;t</em> share our assumptions (and we don&#8217;t share theirs). Such thinkers exist even within our own time and place (as with the overeager campus missionaries). But the greater the distance in time and space, the greater the disconnect of assumptions is likely to be &#8211; and the more crucial it is to consider not merely the explicit arguments but also the assumptions of the thinkers we hope to learn from. </p>
<p>Figuring all this out was crucial to my own <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/other-writings/">dissertation</a> work. Śāntideva, I noted there, believes that material goods are harmful and still urges one to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/on-santidevas-anti-politics/">give them to others</a> for their benefit. If I&#8217;d merely considered his explicit arguments and nothing more, I would have had to have stopped there: Śāntideva is a fool who contradicts himself, and there&#8217;s an end on&#8217;t &#8211; and in that case, why bother studying him any further? </p>
<p>But I didn&#8217;t do that. Instead, I followed the method of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/looking-for-coherent-authorship/">looking for coherent authorship</a>, as stated by Thomas Kuhn: I tried to ask myself how an intelligent person could have written such an apparent absurdity. And that required looking deeper into Śāntideva&#8217;s assumptions: the things he believes but <em>doesn&#8217;t say</em>. Key among these was the idea that gifts benefit the recipient through the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/on-santidevas-anti-politics/">gift encounter and not the gift object</a>. I argue in the dissertation that if you look at the things Śāntideva does say, you can infer that Śāntideva believes this, and it makes sense out of his explicit arguments in a way that you can&#8217;t get from looking at the arguments alone. Such an approach, I think, is crucial to making sense of any philosopher outside of one&#8217;s own immediate cultural milieu. If all you&#8217;re going to consider is the arguments, you might as well not bother. And indeed, most analytic philosophers <em>don&#8217;t</em> bother much with thinkers from distant times and places, which, considering their method, is just as well. </p>
<p>But that is not to say analytic philosophy is worthless. Not at all! It just doesn&#8217;t prepare you very well for studying the history of philosophy (which is why that history tends to be relegated to the sidelines of analytic departments). What it does very well is attempt to get to truth <em>within</em> a given context, namely ours &#8211; to take the incoherent mess of &#8220;intuitions&#8221; or prejudices, with which we must always begin our philosophical reflection, and start to hammer them into something that actually makes sense. For that reason I often refer to analytic philosophy as the scholasticism of the liberal tradition. Like medieval Christian scholasticism, analytic thought provides an extraordinary level of detailed reflection within one given context, which is <em>necessary</em> if those within that context are going to seriously strive to reach a truth about their lives. But it also makes that thought look parochial from a foreign context; I strongly suspect that the majority of analytical reflection will look as bizarre to people 500 years from now as Christian scholasticism looks to us today. Those people of the future may well be able to benefit from the argumentative details of 20th-century analytic philosophy; but it will require someone with the interpretive approach of a continental philosopher to figure out just what it was the analytic philosophers were going on about.</p>
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		<title>Assessing philosophy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been delighted to take up my new full-time job as educational technologist at Boston University. It&#8217;s been great to use my background in scholarship and teaching in a way that, unlike faculty work, actually makes a living. My specialty as a technologist has been to help faculty adopt ePortfolios &#8211; electronic collections of student [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been delighted to take up my new full-time job as educational technologist at <a href="http://www.bu.edu/">Boston University</a>. It&#8217;s been great to use my background in scholarship and teaching in a way that, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/05/the-philosophers-leisure/">unlike faculty work</a>, actually makes a living.</p>
<p>My specialty as a technologist has been to help faculty adopt <a href="https://bu.digication.com/">ePortfolios</a> &#8211; electronic collections of student and faculty work, typically with the intent of making student learning visible to an outside audience. There are a variety of purposes to ePortfolios, but one of the most common is <em>assessment</em> &#8211; figuring out whether students are really learning what they&#8217;re supposed to be learning.</p>
<p>Educational institutions have come to emphasize assessment more and more in the past decade. Assessment is sometimes resisted in the humanities because of an emphasis on quantification &#8211; often with good reason, as in the case of the UK&#8217;s catastrophic <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Assessment_Exercise">RAE</a> and its relentless insistence on quantity over quality of scholarship. But there&#8217;s no reason for humanists to be opposed to assessment in <em>principle</em>. We always claim that our students come out of our classes better than they were when they began &#8211; better writers, more careful readers, more thoughtful, more critical, more knowledgeable, more engaged citizens, whatever. If they didn&#8217;t improve in some such ways, there would be no point in our teaching them. And surely at least some such improvements can be <em>observed</em>, even if we resist attaching numbers to that improvement beyond the grades we give. Moreover, some of those who have tried to observe whether students do indeed improve in these ways in their college classes &#8211; notably <a href="http://chronicle.com/article/Are-Undergraduates-Actually/125979/">Richard Arum and Josipa Roksa</a> &#8211; have found that in many cases, in the US at least, they don&#8217;t. This fact, if true, would be disastrous, considering that US students typically go tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt for their educations. Surely we cannot merely <em>assume</em> that this is money well spent. And so assessment of <em>some</em> sort seems to me quite a valuable task. </p>
<p>Working professionally with assessment has led me to think more about the question: how do we assess <em>philosophy</em>? It is this question, I think, that may have contributed the most to the notorious divide between <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/05/analytic-and-continental-philosophy/">analytic and &#8220;continental&#8221; philosophy</a>. <span id="more-2226"></span></p>
<p>It has been a commonplace for some time that the <em>concerns</em> of analytic and &#8220;continental&#8221; philosophers overlap considerably. In the past couple decades, philosophers in the two traditions have started reading each other&#8217;s work considerably more than they had when the divide was at its peak. Yet the gap endures &#8211; a student trained in the continental <a href="http://www.bc.edu/schools/cas/philosophy/">Boston College philosophy department</a> is  unlikely to be offered a job at analytical <a href="http://philosophy.as.nyu.edu/page/Faculty">NYU</a>, and vice versa.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s understandable to bemoan such a gap; I&#8217;ve done my share of this bemoaning myself. And yet I&#8217;d also like to suggest that the gap currently exists for good reason. It is not, as partisans on either side usually have it (and as I have thought in earlier periods of my life), because one side does philosophy so much better than the other. Rather, it is for the related reason that the two sides disagree on <em>what good philosophy is</em>. They disagree, that is, on assessment &#8211; right down to the matter of assigning marks (grades) to student essays and exams.</p>
<p>I saw this difference firsthand as a teaching assistant at Harvard. I taught in two courses, Michael Sandel&#8217;s &#8220;Justice&#8221; and Jay Harris&#8217;s &#8220;If There Is No God, All Is Permitted&#8221;, which I think exemplified the divide. Both courses were offered under the now-defunct rubric of &#8220;Moral Reasoning&#8221;, in which all Harvard undergrads at the time had to take a course. Neither course was taught by a philosophy professor &#8211; Sandel taught in the department of government, Harris in Near Eastern studies &#8211; and yet the courses still effectively managed to reproduce the analytic/continental divide, evidence that this divide is not merely a matter of the parochial turf wars of philosophy departments.</p>
<p>In Sandel&#8217;s course, argument was all. Students were given a specific question on which to take a position (e.g. &#8220;Should governments torture terrorists to gain information about future attacks?&#8221;) We marked the papers on whether they had a clear thesis; gave clear, logical and relevant arguments to demonstrate the truth of that thesis; and anticipated potential objections and responded to those. If you did that, you got a good mark; if you didn&#8217;t, you didn&#8217;t. Kant and Mill and Rawls and Aristotle were on the reading list, but as resources for arguments about the particular cases, deeper theoretical sets of reasons to underlie the arguments students made. Whether you interpreted them correctly was of secondary importance.</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t the case in Harris&#8217;s course. I had a bit of difficulty adjusting to that course, because after two semesters with Sandel, I expected to continue marking on the basis of argument. But for Harris and my fellow TAs in that course, argument was secondary. There was a wide variety of topics to write about, some of which would barely even require the students to <em>have</em> an argument, just explore an interesting position. Much more important was interpretation &#8211; and not merely a correct interpretation, but a <em>deep</em> interpretation, one that could explain not merely what Kant said, but why he said it. </p>
<p>Harris&#8217;s approach here was much closer to that typically taken in continental Europe. I found it very enlightening to read a short piece in a Harvard magazine by a student who&#8217;d gone on a study-abroad program in France. She noted that in French humanities classes &#8211; not merely in philosophy &#8211; students were expected to open their papers not with a thesis, but with a <em>problématique</em>, an explanation of the various aspects of the problem to be explored. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even talking here about the difference in content taught between the two classes &#8211; but about assessment. The two professors effectively disagreed about what constitutes good philosophy. And it&#8217;s that disagreement, I think, that makes the analytic-continental split so enduring. </p>
<p>Now couldn&#8217;t one say that <em>both</em> rigour of argument and depth of interpretation are important, and get over the dispute that way? Well, sure, and I would argue that that&#8217;s the right way for philosophy to go. The trick is that doing it is not as easy as it sounds. Pedagogically, it&#8217;s easier to focus on teaching students a single skill than multiple ones. And I might be tempted to argue that there&#8217;s a deeper problem &#8211; that the two goals can in some respect interfere with each other. But that&#8217;s a topic for another post.</p>
<p>[EDIT: Earlier version of the post didn't have links to the BC and NYU philosophy departments, just notes to myself to include them. Whoops. Thanks to Jeff for pointing that out!]</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In each of the three great classical traditions of philosophy &#8211; the West, South Asia and East Asia (or Greece, India and China) &#8211; there appears early on a school of thought that is taken as that tradition&#8217;s target of attack. This school dies out after a few hundred years or so, so that in modern times we know them above all as the object of the mainstream tradition&#8217;s attacks. And yet, to the extent that we can date the philosophy in this period, the philosophical reflection arising before this school tends to be far less sophisticated than that coming after.</p>
<p>The three schools in question are the Sophists in Greece, the Cārvāka or Lokāyata in India, and the Mohists in China. They are of crucial importance to any cross-cultural philosopher, because by running against the grain of the later tradition they break most of our stereotypes about that culture&#8217;s philosophy as a whole. In most general attempts to characterize the nature of Indian philosophy, for example, the words &#8220;except the Cārvākas&#8221; come up a lot.<span id="more-2218"></span></p>
<p>For when one tries to characterize Indian philosophy in general, the words &#8220;religious&#8221; and &#8220;spiritual&#8221; usually come up a lot. As <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/on-the-grounds-of-religion-or-belief/">unhelpful</a> as those words can sometimes be, they do point to something real that is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/12/chinese-intimacy-and-indian-ascent/">generally shared</a> across <em>most</em> Indian philosophy: an  <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">ascent orientation</a>. The majority of Indian thinkers see everyday life in the world as a site of suffering, something to be transcended and moved beyond; and there is usually an element of the supernatural closely connected with this attempt to transcendence. </p>
<p>The Cārvākas, on the other hand, are said to deny all this. I say &#8220;said to&#8221; because the works of the Cārvākas are almost entirely lost to us, more than those of the Sophists or Mohists; the only surviving text that even <em>could</em> be considered Cārvāka is Jayarāśi&#8217;s Tattvopaplavasiṃha, whose status as a Cārvāka text is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/">quite disputed</a>. (The <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/#comment-5898">comments</a> to that post are a great introduction to the question of whether Jayarāśi was really a Cārvāka.) Because Indian tradition was largely preserved orally, we have few fragments of oppositional traditions; people didn&#8217;t usually bother memorizing the texts of their opponents, except for brief refutations. But from the refutations that do survive, it seems that the Cārvākas denied the existence of anything that could not be perceived &#8211; thus denying karma and rebirth along with any attempt to transcend bodily existence, and advocating some form of hedonistic ethics. This is a strong example of a descent orientation, quite far removed from the Buddhist and brahmanical views that survive in Indian philosophy.</p>
<p>So too, the history of East Asian philosophy has been characterized above all by an <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">intimacy orientation</a>, characteristic especially of Confucianism. East Asian thought has typically rested on a valuing of close family connections above any sort of universal humanity, and relied heavily on nonverbal knowing; thus there is often a lack of explicit polemical argument. </p>
<p>But in Mozi, for whom the Mohist school is named, we find little of this. (Since his name is usually transliterated with &#8220;Mo&#8221; rather than &#8220;Moh&#8221;, it would be more strictly accurate to call the school the &#8220;Moist&#8221; school, but the resulting jokes would be too distracting.) Mozi is an interesting figure here because there <em>are</em> some respects in which he remains an intimacy thinker &#8211; for example, not positing a dualism between subject and object, and continuing to emphasize social cues as well as explicit argument. But he rejects several of the most typical intimacy views, views which have later been taken to be characteristically Chinese. Most notably, he rejects partiality to family and friends in favour of a quasi-utilitarian universal concern. And he makes rational arguments in an explicit, polemical, and uncompromising manner.</p>
<p>As for the West, its philosophy &#8211; at least until the time of Nietzsche &#8211; is widely characterized as a search for truth, with that truth typically seen as correspondence with a reality external to the self. Medieval Christianity and Islam identified this truth with God; the ancient Greeks and the modern Europeans had varying beliefs about God or gods and their relations to truth, but truth remained at the heart of their concerns. And the ideal was to reach this truth through rational argument, conceived of as distinct from rhetorical appeals to emotion.</p>
<p>This ideal of philosophy comes largely out of the works of Plato &#8211; and he developed it in contrast to the Sophists. The Sophists were teachers of rhetoric, the equivalent of spin doctors and advertisers, who aimed for their words to be practically effective, make a political difference. Effectiveness rather than truth was the standard by which they judged. If one were to compare East Asian and Western thought by taking Mozi and Gorgias the Sophist as their representative figures, one would gain a very unusual view of the differences between the traditions!</p>
<p>Now Mozi is almost never taken as a paradigmatic thinker of East Asian thought, nor Gorgias of Western (or the Cārvākas of South Asia). And this is for good reason. Western, South Asian and East Asian thought would all have turned out very differently had Sophism, Cārvāka or Mohism emerged as the dominant philosophical tendency in the medieval era. But the fact is they did <em>not</em> so emerge, and so the vast majority of thought in each of these places did indeed take the direction we now associate with it: ascending South Asia, intimacy East Asia, rational truth-seeking West. </p>
<p>So what then is the significance of these oppositional traditions? Well, especially, they forced the mainstream tradition to react &#8211; and to become philosophical. I&#8217;ve been thinking about these issues in reading <a href="http://www0.hku.hk/philodep/ch/">Chad Hansen</a>&#8216;s fascinating <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Daoist-Theory-Chinese-Thought-Interpretation/dp/0195134192">A Daoist Theory of Chinese Thought</a>, which often seems to me more Mohist than Daoist. Hansen points out that there is little explicit argument in Confucius, only a collection of &#8220;wise sayings&#8221; hearkening back to earlier tradition. It is Confucius&#8217;s successor Mencius who first <em>argues</em> for Confucianism; his arguments are not as polemical or analytical as Mozi&#8217;s (and Hansen doesn&#8217;t think they work very well), but arguments they nevertheless are.  Hansen claims, plausibly, that Mencius was spurred to make these defences of the tradition primarily because of Mozi&#8217;s challenges.</p>
<p>The Sophists seem to have had a very similar role in the West: until their time, ethical reflection had been left to the poets and tragedians. The Sophists challenged existing pieties, in a way that led to the explicit philosophical reflection of Plato and Aristotle. Confucianism and later Greek thought could not have been nearly as robut without the challenges of the Mohists and Sophists.</p>
<p>And the Cārvākas? Because of the aforementioned lack of sources, we need to be more conjectural here. But we may note that they flourished in the era of the wandering sages, which gave birth to both the Buddha and the founders of Jainism &#8211; an era, like ancient Athens or the Warring States era of Confucius and Mozi, where many different philosophies thrived. It could well have been their challenge that led the other schools to define themselves in response. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have repeatedly returned to the categories of ascent and descent, and intimacy and integrity, to classify philosophies; and I have found that the two intersect in important ways. When I discussed that intersection the first time, skholiast asked the important question: &#8220;What is the itch in us to make such schematisms?&#8221; What is the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have repeatedly returned to the categories of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">ascent and descent</a>, and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">intimacy and integrity</a>, to classify philosophies; and I have found that the two <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/ascent-descent-and-intimacy-integrity-together/">intersect</a> in important ways. When I discussed that intersection the first time, <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/">skholiast</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/ascent-descent-and-intimacy-integrity-together/#comment-3788">asked</a> the important question: &#8220;What is the itch in us to make such schematisms?&#8221; What is the purpose of trying to classify philosophies in this way?</p>
<p>My first response was that these two are <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/perennial-questions/">perennial questions</a>, questions that recur throughout the history of philosophy around the world. While I continue to think more or less that that&#8217;s the case, I don&#8217;t think it did enough to say what&#8217;s important about <em>these</em> particular two categories. As I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/08/multiple-perennial-questions/">noted later</a>, there are plenty of perennial questions beyond these two. But at the same time, I do see something special about these two classification schemes that merits particular attention to them.<span id="more-2139"></span></p>
<p>For one thing, they reach very deep. The other perennial questions I named in the later post &#8211; free will and human nature &#8211; do have ramifications both theoretical and practical, but I&#8217;m not sure that they colour the overall tenor of a philosophy the way ascent-descent and intimacy-integrity do. A philosopher&#8217;s position on free will or human nature seems to me less likely to affect her views on the basic nature of reality and knowledge, say, than these two do. I&#8217;m not entirely sure that this point holds up well, but it&#8217;s probably worth mentioning.</p>
<p>The more powerful reason to work with these two classification schemes, I think, is that they name perhaps the most abiding differences between philosophical traditions. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s terribly controversial to say that the modern West generally takes an orientation of integrity descent, in its secularism and its atomistic individualism. Thomas Kasulis&#8217;s  <a href="http://books.google.com/books/about/Intimacy_or_integrity.html?id=TOQ6onCqYu4C">book</a>, from which I draw the intimacy-integrity distinction, takes the modern West as the paradigm of an integrity approach; Ken Wilber, in theorizing ascent and descent, identifies the recent history of the West with the &#8220;dominance of the descenders.&#8221; </p>
<p>What I find particularly interesting about these classifications, though, is that they don&#8217;t merely name distinctions between the West and the non-West, or modern and non-modern. Those kinds of distinctions have been done and done to death, especially in the early- and mid-20th century sociological work that asked why the rest of the world hadn&#8217;t &#8220;modernized&#8221; the way the West had. (Max Weber&#8217;s work is probably the most famous in this genre, but far more of them were written.) </p>
<p>Rather, these classifications also catch distinctions <em>between</em> the major non-Western philosophical traditions, those of East Asia (especially China and Japan) and South Asia (especially India). I noted <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">previously</a> that Kasulis&#8217;s intimacy-integrity distinction at first struck me as just another forgettable example of the attempts to characterize the modern West against the rest of the world, until Parimal Patil pointed out the fact &#8211; right under my nose &#8211; that in nearly every aspect of Kasulis&#8217;s classification, classical Indian thought had an integrity orientation at least as strong as the West&#8217;s. Ever since then, I&#8217;ve found the classification indispensable. One might similarly note that the ascent orientation in classical Chinese thought is not significantly stronger than it is in the modern West &#8211; not, at least, until Buddhism begins to arrive there from India.</p>
<p>In other words, Kasulis could not have written a book characterizing ancient India as an intimacy culture in the way that he did with modern Japan. Wilber, meanwhile, notes that contemporary Westerners (especially of his baby boom generation) are much more likely to recognize a lack of intimacy in their own culture than a lack of ascent; he reserves significant criticism for the widespread ecological views that exalt our interdependence with nature but do not recognize a spiritual dimension in which we strive for something beyond it. And it can be no coincidence that, with such a project, Wilber refers far more often to Indian tradition than to Chinese. Nor, conversely, is it a coincidence that Alasdair MacIntyre &#8211; whose philosophical writings have long been aimed at moving contemporary Western thought to a more intimacy-oriented worldview derived from ancient Greece &#8211; has written significantly on Confucian thought, but said absolutely nothing (that I&#8217;m aware of) about anything Indian or Buddhist.</p>
<p>It seems to me, then, that when modern Westerners turn to other traditions to seek something missing in their own, they look to China if they think the &#8220;something missing&#8221; has to do with intimacy, and India if it has to do with ascent. A notable exception to this tendency (of looking to India for ascent and China for intimacy) is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-what-it-is/">Yavanayāna</a> Buddhism, which looks to the Buddha&#8217;s Indian Buddhism for an intimacy philosophy that celebrates the interdependence of all things &#8211; <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/03/buddhists-against-interdependence/">something it is not</a>. But I suspect the chief reason it can do this is the presence of East Asian Buddhism, which <em>does</em> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/the-story-of-buddhisms-descent/">celebrate interdependence</a> in a way that would be quite alien to the Buddha himself. In this respect, I think Yavanayāna is the exception that proves the rule.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A decade or so ago, in David Hall&#8216;s graduate class on method and theory in the study of religion, Hall asked the class why the study of religion in recent years had focused so much on particular historical details in individual places rather than larger issues that characterized or crossed traditions. I responded that the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A decade or so ago, in <a href="http://www.hds.harvard.edu/people/faculty/david-d-hall">David Hall</a>&#8216;s graduate class on method and theory in the study of religion, Hall asked the class why the study of religion in recent years had focused so much on particular historical details in individual places rather than larger issues that characterized or crossed traditions. I responded that the competitive job market and publish-or-perish tenure system require that people take an ever narrower focus, in order to carve out a niche for themselves. Hall replied, &#8220;Er, well, yes, that&#8217;s the cynical explanation.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I thought: <em>cynical</em>? Hall made his name <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Cultures-Print-History-Studies-Culture/dp/1558490493/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_3">studying</a> the material conditions that gave rise to American &#8220;religion,&#8221; the economics of printing and text production. Much of his career was about the (often wise) materialist advice to explain the popularity of certain ideas by following the money. And yet suddenly, when that same mirror was turned on his own intellectual environment, of the 21st-century North American university &#8211; somehow it became &#8220;cynical&#8221;? Somehow, unlike all those thinkers we study, <em>we</em> have magically managed to escape the pressures of money-making and live in a world of pure ideas? <span id="more-2155"></span></p>
<p>I suppose it might not have been so hard for Hall to think that way as a member of the Luckiest Generation: the pre-baby-boom scholars who taught at a time, unthinkable now, of vast expanding opportunities in academia. But for a member of today&#8217;s <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/05/where-marx-was-right-and-wrong/">academic proletariat</a>, it&#8217;s hard <em>not</em> to think in materialist terms &#8211; to follow the money, as one tries to think and write in socially approved ways in order to make it possible to earn a living.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that contemporary academic thought in the humanities is monolithic; there are at least three major methodological approaches that are very much at odds with one another. But there is something these approaches all share in common, and I think that that something can be attributed directly to the material conditions of academic life. </p>
<p>The first and oldest of these approaches is philology. Philology is devoted to the collecting, editing and translating of old texts &#8211; figuring out exactly what it is the text says, more than what it means. There aren&#8217;t that many philologists left teaching at smaller or regional colleges, but they often receive the juiciest teaching positions at the big prestigious universities, the Harvards and Pennsylvanias. </p>
<p>The second major approach is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/05/analytic-and-continental-philosophy/">analytic philosophy</a>. Analytic philosophers devote their attention to analyzing arguments in ever more precise detail, leaving aside as many extraneous issues as possible in order to get one tiny conclusion exactly right. Analytic philosophy tends to be the object of scorn and derision outside of philosophy departments, but it rules those philosophy departments with an iron fist. The <a href="http://philosophysmoker.blogspot.com/">philosophy job market</a> is cruel enough to those who are trained solidly within the analytic tradition; if you do anything else, your odds of getting a teaching position in a philosophy department these days are very close to nil. </p>
<p>The third, and surely most widespread, of the three is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">postmodernism</a>, or the many variants on it. Postmodernists believe, among other things, that there is no definitive interpretation of any given text; a text is certainly not limited to what its author intended. So one can, for example, perform a &#8220;queer reading&#8221; of a classical text, examining homoerotic dimensions that are more apparent to a contemporary reader than to someone in the text&#8217;s own time. Leading postmodernist Jacques Derrida emphasized reading at &#8220;the margins,&#8221; those parts of a text which the author wished to wave aside. In philosophy, the majority of postmodernists are often quite cagey about advancing philosophical theories that they claim as their own (in the way that analytic philosophers do); rather, their works typically involve the exegesis of someone else&#8217;s existing work. </p>
<p>All three approaches are found in religion departments today, and they are typically quite hostile to each other. Postmodernists, especially, are philosophically opposed to the philologists&#8217; attempt to pin down a single fixed text and the analytics&#8217; attempt to find a single truth; analytic philosophers and philologists both disdain postmodernists&#8217; apparently fast and loose readings of texts and of the world. </p>
<p>Beneath this hostility, however, there is one thing that all three schools of thought have in common. And that is the tendency to <em>think small</em>. The philologist focuses on tiny details of a single text, the analytic on tiny details of a single argument. The postmodernist may look at a whole text or even corpus of texts, but with the attempt to establish one single new interpretation among many, no attempt at anything grand or definitive; and talking only about what&#8217;s within the text and its historical context, not examining whether the text&#8217;s content is true or correct about the world outside the text. (Thus much postmodern work in so-called ethics tends to actually be in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/ethics-vs-ethics-studies/">ethics studies</a>.)</p>
<p>And that smallness, in turn, brings us back to the material conditions with which I opened. There is endless room to publish <em>new work</em> coming from all three of these methodological approaches. There are always ever more obscure texts for philologists to study, lying forgotten in dusty rooms until someone publishes about them in a journal. There are always smaller and smaller corners of an argument for analytic philosophers to poke at, finding some new detail or twist that has not yet been explored. And there are nearly infinite ways to reinterpret a text in the postmodern manner, taking the many permutations and combinations of applying interpretive lens X to text Y. If you want to publish in an academic journal, any variant of these three strategies gives you a good start for finding something new to say.</p>
<p>What you <em>can&#8217;t</em> do is be a scholar in the manner of Confucius, who tried to faithfully pass the received great ideas of the past down to new generations. Such scholars were the norm in the old days; now they are nearly an extinct breed. Sadder yet, the dominance of these three schools leaves no room for the wide-ranging, broad-minded work that pulls together many fields of knowledge into a single synthesis. If a young scholar today were to try to write the contemporary equivalent of Plato&#8217;s <em>Republic</em> or the <em>Mencius</em>, she would find herself eating out of garbage cans. </p>
<p>It is for these reasons that I have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-first-philosophy-blogger/">embraced blogging</a> with such excitement. In academia, I could never have gotten away with asking the big questions I ask here. I would have earned great scorn for saying as much as I do on Greek and Chinese philosophers without knowing Greek or Chinese. Never mind that Thomas Aquinas managed to be one of the world&#8217;s greatest Aristotle commentators without knowing any Greek; if written today, his painstaking works would be snubbed as the scribblings of a dilettante. But if one wishes to try and learn, as I do, from all the major philosophical traditions &#8211; to learn all the languages involved would itself require a lifetime of training before one could begin to do any actual thinking. Outside of academia, one can start the thinking process as one wishes, and allow oneself to be corrected by people who <em>do</em> know the relevant languages if one gets something egregiously wrong. </p>
<p>I make no secret of being a big-picture thinker. (At least, not anymore.) But I also keep in mind the admonitions of the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/11/philosophical-single-mindedness-1/">previous</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/11/philosophical-single-mindedness-2/">weeks</a>: the details do matter. <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/tag/ken-wilber/">Ken Wilber</a> is another philosopher who was able to get to the big picture by sidestepping academia; but I found that in his early work at least, he erred in the opposite direction, often writing the same book many times and rarely letting himself be corrected about the things he gets wrong. He could have used some of the detail-mindedness that academia provides. (Though I am currently reading some more recent works of his and finding that he may have started to get better at this.) </p>
<p>For this reason I have some sympathy for all of the approaches I discuss: we need the philologists to collect the texts we learn from, the analytic philosophers to sharpen our arguments&#8217; precision, the postmodernists to remind us there might always be another way of looking at it. All of these approaches risk getting lost in their details, not seeing the forest for the trees; but Wilber (like myself) tends to gloss over the trees that make the forest up. The ideal approach, far easier said than done, is to combine the two. For that reason I&#8217;m grateful to have had a detail-oriented PhD training before trying to write about the big stuff on my own. That certainly doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m necessarily going to get it right. But it feels like I&#8217;ve got a good shot. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about the seventh chapter in a splendid book called The Ancients and the Moderns, by a fascinating Boston University professor named Stanley Rosen. I read the book over two years ago, but the ideas of this chapter have since continued to percolate in my brain. Rosen argues that we need [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about the seventh chapter in a splendid book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ancients-Moderns-Rethinking-Stanley-Rosen/dp/1587310244">The Ancients and the Moderns</a>, by a fascinating Boston University professor named <a href="http://www.bu.edu/philo/people/faculty/emeritus/stanley-rosen/">Stanley Rosen</a>. I read the book over two years ago, but the ideas of this chapter have since continued to percolate in my brain.</p>
<p>Rosen argues that we need to see a much closer association between two fields of study often thought separate: <em>logic and psychology</em>. At first glance, the two might seem to have little in particular to do with one another. Logic concerns itself with the proper formal relationships between statements in arguments; psychology, with the empirical investigation of mind and behaviour.</p>
<p>But more basically, what <em>are</em> logic and psychology? Both, really, are the study of thought. <span id="more-2134"></span> One might narrow logic down a bit and say it is the study of reasoning; but reasoning is very much a part of psychology&#8217;s subject matter as well. Their differences are not in their subject matter. There is certainly a difference in method; but that difference flows from a more fundamental difference between the two. </p>
<p>Namely: psychology (or at least certain branches of it) tells us how we do in fact reason. Logic tells us how we <em>should</em> reason. Psychology tells us about the circumstances under which we do or do not follow the rules of reasoning that logic sets down as proper. Which is to say: logic is a <em>normative</em> discipline. That is, logic, like ethics and aesthetics, is concerned with goodness and value &#8211; with what should and should not be the case, not merely with what is and is not the case. The idea of a truth that is better than falsehood, and of the methods to discover that truth, is part of what makes logic possible.</p>
<p>The relationship between logic and psychology, taken in this way, is more or less the relationship between <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/ethics-vs-ethics-studies/">ethics and ethics studies</a>, between the philosophy of science and science studies, or between <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/descriptive-and-normative-meanings-of-science-and-other-traditions/">theology and religious studies</a> as religious studies is very often conceived. The latter member of each pair tells us how we do reason (or act); the former tells us how we should. But where the ideals of science, ethics and theology tell us how to reason within their particular fields of inquiry, logic tells us how to reason in the general case, including all the others.</p>
<p>Logic is a normative discipline &#8211; a discipline concerned with value &#8211; because it is fundamentally concerned with <em>truth</em>. And it is part of the nature of truth to <em>be</em> a value, to be better than falsehood. To deny the intrinsic value or goodness of truth makes no sense, as I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/10/is-pleasure-the-only-intrinsic-good/">argued before</a> in claiming that truth has a value independent of pleasure.</p>
<p>The normative nature of truth holds true whatever one might understand truth to be. Analytic philosophers most commonly identify three theories of the truth of statements (or more generally propositions): correspondence, coherence and pragmatic. Speaking broadly, on the correspondence theory, propositions are true if they correspond to reality; on the coherence theory, propositions are true if they cohere with other propositions we hold; on the pragmatic theory, propositions are true if they are effective. But what is presumed by all three theories is that truth is a <em>good thing</em>: other things being equal, propositions that correspond to reality or that cohere with other propositions or that are effective are better than propositions that do not do these things. And when this is true of the more limited analytical theories of truth, how much more so of more expansive theories of truth that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/truth-and-contradiction-beyond-propositions/">do not limit themselves to propositions</a>, like those of Augustine or Gandhi. Augustine probably goes the furthest on this point: truth <em>is</em> goodness &#8211; which is God.</p>
<p>The fact that truth and logic are normative and value-laden has important consequences. For one thing, it gives the lie to simplistic claims of &#8220;value-free&#8221; science or social science (including psychology itself). All intellectual inquiry is predicated on at least <em>one</em> value, namely truth itself. More sophisticated defenders of &#8220;value neutrality,&#8221; like Max Weber, will argue that the scholar of a scientific field needs to put truth above other values &#8211; but we must recognize that this argument is itself a value argument, an ethical argument for the importance of truth relative to other values, at least within certain areas of inquiry. The argument that one should place truth above other values is a normative and value-based argument.</p>
<p>Now the discussion above should <em>not</em> imply that all true statements are good statements, or all true things are good things. It is true that outlying areas of Bangkok were recently hit by disastrous floods; it is not good that this happened. The relation between truth and goodness is and must be more complex than that. </p>
<p>The fact that not all true things are good probably seems obvious to anyone who isn&#8217;t a philosopher; but it nevertheless poses some problems. For someone like Augustine who identifies truth with goodness, it would seem to be at the very heart of the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/the-problem-of-bad-and-the-problem-of-good/">problem of bad</a>. If truth is goodness, how can there be things that truly exist but are nevertheless bad? Augustine ingeniously deals with this problem (or at least this aspect of the problem) by identifying badness as a <em>lack</em> of the existence of good &#8211; in the same way a modern physicist identifies cold as simply a lack of heat. Absolute evil, on his account, looks very much like absolute zero. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s often said that philosophy is about questions rather than answers. Yet it is in the nature of a question that one who asks it at least wishes to find an answer, even if that answer remains elusive. Even rhetorical questions are rhetorical because they imply an assumed answer. And so with the perennial questions, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s often said that philosophy is about questions rather than answers. Yet it is in the nature of a question that one who asks it at least <em>wishes</em> to find an answer, even if that answer remains elusive. Even rhetorical questions are rhetorical because they imply an assumed answer.</p>
<p>And so with the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/perennial-questions/">perennial questions</a>, to which I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/08/multiple-perennial-questions/">regularly return</a> on this blog. Central to the idea of a perennial question, as I have expressed it, is that the answers have never come easily. People across cultures, in different places and times, have asked the question &#8211; but in each place, people have come up with opposing answers.</p>
<p>To observe this diversity of opinion is humbling. Here are some of the greatest minds in human history, people smarter than I will ever be, reading each other&#8217;s work and still coming to opposite conclusions. Can an answer then ever be found?<span id="more-2045"></span></p>
<p>The quickest, easiest and most tempting response is to throw up one&#8217;s hands and say no, or effectively say no: there&#8217;s no way to decide between these different answers. This is the postmodern or relativist response, and it&#8217;s one to which undergraduates gravitate very quickly &#8211; and understandably &#8211; when faced with the big questions. But this answer very quickly reveals itself to be both incorrect and unsatisfying &#8211; for reasons beyond the performatives I have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">previously</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/why-worry-about-contradictions/">discussed</a>. </p>
<p>For to say &#8220;there is no answer&#8221; is itself an answer, and an answer that is itself in disagreement with those very great minds. Plato and Aristotle might disagree significantly on the answer to the question of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">Ascent and Descent</a>, but they will certainly agree that there <em>is</em> an answer to be found. Take the Descent and you will reject Plato; take the Ascent and you will reject Aristotle; say there can be no answer and you will reject both. There&#8217;s no way around fundamental disagreement with at least <em>one</em> of the great thinkers on any perennial question.</p>
<p>Or is there? There is another way to address such questions, but it is more complicated than any of the options discussed so far: taking one side over the other; adopting one thinker&#8217;s solution as truth; rejecting attempts to find an answer. <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/">Skholiast</a> nailed it in his <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/perennial-questions/#comment-4246">response</a> to my first post on perennial questions. On perennial questions like that of Ascent and Descent, there is in the great thinkers always a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/how-not-to-think-dialectically/">dialectic</a>: an attempt not merely to refute the opponent&#8217;s position but in some way to incorporate it. Skholiast describes the dialectical process using <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/hegel-in-space/">Hegel</a>&#8216;s complex but key German term <em>Aufhebung</em> (which is the noun form; the verb is <em>aufheben</em> in the present tense, <em>aufgehoben</em> in the past). <em>Aufheben</em> is often translated ineffectively with the word &#8220;sublate,&#8221; a word which has no real English meaning other than as a translation of <em>aufheben</em>. Ken Wilber renders it as &#8220;transcend and include,&#8221; which provides a much more helpful understanding of what the German term gets at, but is wordy enough to be awkward. I prefer &#8220;supersede,&#8221; which covers a lot of the sense of the German word. The new edition of a book (ideally) supersedes, <em>aufheb</em>s, the old. It cancels the old in a sense, moves beyond it and makes it unnecessary, but does so by preserving what is most important in the old while adding things that are new and better.</p>
<p>In the case of Plato and Aristotle, it&#8217;s easy to fall into the temptation of portraying them roughly as Martha Nussbaum does in <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=GCKqZkyzFO0C&#038;pg=PA194&#038;dq=fragility+o&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=tPtgToncEOa70AHX8qQP&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=2&#038;ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&#038;q=fragility%20o&#038;f=false">The Fragility of Goodness</a>, or as Raphael does in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/aspergers-syndrome-in-the-history-of-philosophy/">The School of Athens</a>: as polar and mutually exclusive opposites, Plato seeking only to escape the fortunes of the world and Aristotle to embrace them. But as Skholiast notes and as I have tried to emphasize in my own posts, there is always a Platonic element to Aristotle, an attempt to embrace and incorporate Plato&#8217;s transcendence within a philosophy whose overall tendency is more worldly. This Platonic Aristotle comes out above all in sections X.6-8 of the <a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.10.x.html">Nicomachean Ethics</a>,  where Aristotle says that the contemplative life is the highest and best because it is the most godlike. This is a passage that Nussbaum has a hard time dealing with; she says effectively that Aristotle is contradicting the rest of his work (<em>Fragility</em> 375-7). But she agrees that he feels the power of Plato&#8217;s Ascent ideal, and is trying to consider it. It strikes me that his goal was very likely to supersede Plato, to transcend and include him, to be not merely a Descender but a Descender who includes Ascent within his thought. If Nussbaum&#8217;s interpretation is right, it may mean primarily that he failed at that task.</p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m trying to make is that the perennial questions are best addressed through a <em>dialectical synthesis</em>. What the greatest thinkers do when they address a perennial question is not merely to take a side, Ascent or Descent, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/mou-zongsans-theories-across-cultures/">ātmanism or encounter</a>. If they do take a side, they will attempt to incorporate the best of the opposing side in their view. </p>
<p>There are two critical elements to the process of dialectical synthesis. First, it is an attempt to find <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/virtuous-and-vicious-means/">synthesis, not compromise</a>; it is not about finding a middle ground. The middle ground can turn out to be a vicious mean and not a virtuous one. (Compromise, I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/beyond-agreeing-to-disagree/">have argued</a>, has its role in political practice but not in philosophy.) More important is to take seriously the underlying concerns that animate each side and bring them to where they are, and answer those concerns in a way that could be genuinely satisfying to those who have them. </p>
<p>And second, this process of &#8220;taking seriously&#8221; is a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/dialectical-and-demonstrative-argument/">dialectical</a> one: one starts from the positions one tries to supersede, and shows their inadequacies from within, making the opposing positions part of the process of reaching one&#8217;s own. It is in this sense that Nussbaum&#8217;s and Wilber&#8217;s major works are <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/how-not-to-think-dialectically/">not themselves dialectical</a>, though I think they may aspire to be; the endpoint of the inquiry has already been reached at its beginning. In their works, opposing positions are discussed only to be refuted. Nussbaum tries to make a movement from Plato through various other thinkers and ending in James Joyce; but by the time she gets to Joyce, there isn&#8217;t any Plato left. </p>
<p>Not much of what I&#8217;ve said here today is new; I&#8217;ve made most of these points in the various posts I have linked to above. But I&#8217;m trying to bring them together just because I do see my project as one of trying to work out some answers, however tentative they must be, to perennial questions &#8211; and I do not believe I&#8217;ve found those answers yet. In some respects this post is an attempt to remind myself, and hopefully others with me, of the best ways to think about the great questions &#8211; just because dialectical synthesis is such a difficult path to follow, and I think I&#8217;ve typically fallen short of it so far myself.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m returning today to the idea of perennial questions: questions that recur throughout the history of philosophy, where both sides of a debate keep getting articulated in many different places. The key feature of these perennial questions, to my mind, is that they are large: they cannot be narrowed down to a single precisely defined [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m returning today to the idea of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/perennial-questions/">perennial questions</a>: questions that recur throughout the history of philosophy, where both sides of a debate keep getting articulated in many different places. The key feature of these perennial questions, to my mind, is that they are <em>large</em>: they cannot be narrowed down to a single precisely defined question within a single philosophical subfield, of the sort that analytic philosophers aim to ask, but extend their ramifications across multiple fields of theoretical and practical inquiry.</p>
<p>So far I&#8217;ve explored two major perennial questions: <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">ascent versus descent</a> and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/intimacy-and-integrity/">intimacy versus integrity</a>. I have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/ascent-descent-and-intimacy-integrity-together/">taken these</a> as two different axes along which philosophies can be classified &#8211; in their ethics and soteriology as well as their metaphysics and epistemology. </p>
<p>But why should we treat these as exhausting the perennial questions? <span id="more-2000"></span> I think there&#8217;s value in limiting the number of questions we treat as perennial &#8211; in being prepared to say &#8220;those are different aspects of the same question&#8221; or &#8220;those are different ways of asking the same question&#8221; rather than allowing the questions to proliferate randomly. But that&#8217;s not to say the number of questions should be limited to merely two &#8211; though it&#8217;s certainly interesting to consider the two as <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/09/ascent-descent-and-intimacy-integrity-together/">axes on a single graph</a>. </p>
<p>For there are other questions which are similarly widespread and have similar ramifications. A little while ago I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/mou-zongsans-theories-across-cultures/">pointed to</a> Mou Zongsan&#8217;s distinction between &#8220;perfect&#8221; and &#8220;separation&#8221; theories; these map onto the distinction I discussed earlier between <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">ātmanism and encounter</a>, but Mou effectively tries to show that ātmanism-encounter is its own perennial question, distinct from the integrity-ascent and intimacy-descent positions they might seem to map onto.</p>
<p>Other perennial questions are significantly better known than the debates I have discussed above. One of these is human nature: the question that finds its most classic expression in the ancient Confucian debates between Mencius and Xunzi, but is also well expressed in the West in Rousseau and Augustine, among others. So too, I suspect it is at the heart of the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/05/buddhist-human-nature-from-india-to-china/">changes in Buddhism</a> as it moved from India to Mencian China. At its heart, this is a metaphysical question about what human beings are and what makes them so &#8211; a question which is also open to at least some empirical verification or falsification. But it is also an ethical question. If human beings are naturally good, they need far less ethical correction, need to watch themselves or be watched far less, than if they are systematically prone to error and wrongness. It extends into soteriology: a good human nature <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/05/buddhist-human-nature-from-india-to-china/">makes sudden liberation more plausible</a>. And at <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9441">several points</a> the recent debates over &#8220;common sense&#8221; extended this question into epistemology. To what extent are human reasoning processes naturally good enough to lead us to the truth, and to what extent are they so prone to error that they need regular and systematic correction?</p>
<p>Then there is the similarly metaphysical question of free will &#8211; much less subject to empirical verification. The empirical methods of natural science assume that the world is made of causal processes whose workings can be ascertained; this very assumption begs the metaphysical question at issue. But it too has significant ramifications in ethics and politics. Free will is a fundamental assumption behind the characteristic organizing concepts of modern liberalism: rights, respect, autonomy. The idea that individual choices are to be respected <em>qua</em> choices &#8211; as opposed to their being instrumental to other goods like happiness &#8211; implies that something about these choices gives them a different status from other phenomena in the universe. So you can&#8217;t get even close to a Kantian ethics without free will &#8211; but consequentialist ethics can do fine without it. I&#8217;m told that Fyodor Dostoevsky even saw this point as the fundamental difference between the worldviews of Protestantism and Catholicism: Protestants sacralize individual autonomous choice even if it leads to overall misery; Catholics want an order that produces general happiness even if it leads to tyranny over individual choice. (Whether his characterization was accurate, let alone whether Eastern Orthodox churches provide the appropriate synthesis he thinks they do, is a separate topic.)</p>
<p>The idea of free will has been particularly important in the West, but it has not been limited to that context. It is important enough to Śāntideva that he spends several difficult verses refuting it. Very much like Nietzsche, Śāntideva believes that the idea of free will is harmful and dangerous because it leads us to blame others: their actions have causes just like a stomach upset does, so we should not get angry at them any more than we get angry at our stomach bile. And I think points of view like Śāntideva&#8217;s tend to frame the left-right axis in Canadian politics, and in other countries where God is not a serious political issue. The right believes criminals make free choices, and so deserve their punishment, while the left seeks to reduce the causes of crime; and if people&#8217;s fates in society largely come down to their free choices, then the government has less of a duty to help those whose fates turned out poorly.</p>
<p>The questions I&#8217;ve listed &#8211; ascent/descent, intimacy/integrity, ātmanism/encounter, free will, human nature &#8211; hardly exhaust the list of perennial questions either. In future weeks I&#8217;m hoping to examine others. But I&#8217;m returning to the idea of perennial questions now because I suspect that it may form part of a highly fruitful method in cross-cultural philosophy. Too much cross-cultural philosophy so far has been dominated by the idea of a <em>philosophia perennis</em>, a single universal philosophy shared across cultures. That idea is usually taken to refer to some sort of Advaitic mystical monism, a single cosmic truth that can be known through mystical experience. And while ideas of that sort are indeed present in many cultures, they&#8217;re rarely all that widespread. Most people do not believe this so-called perennial philosophy. Moreover, there&#8217;s an odd parallel between that sort of perennialism and the view of &#8220;common sense&#8221; recently advocated on this blog by Thill Raghunath and others. Though Thill <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">describes</a> &#8220;common sense&#8221; as excluding &#8220;religious&#8221; ideas (which I suspect includes the &#8220;perennial&#8221; mystical monism), he shares with the perennialists a common view of human access to truth: all humans, across cultures, share an innate faculty which allows them access to truth, but most humans access this faculty so little that they are enmeshed in delusion. (As I noted above, epistemologically this seems to put both Thill and the perennialists on the side of the human nature debate that stresses our natural goodness.)</p>
<p>What is truly universal to me in philosophy, it seems, are not the answers but the questions; and that is why I think the cross-cultural study of philosophy should devote more time to these questions. To the extent that the answers are universal as well, it seems to me that <em>multiple and contradictory</em> answers are universal: both mystical Ascent and a &#8220;common sense&#8221; Descent are found across cultures. The student of cross-cultural philosophy should pay attention to both sides.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week, another foray into the debate over &#8220;common sense.&#8221; Apologies in advance to those readers who are not interested in this particular topic, or who will find this post&#8217;s precision rough going. Common-sense advocate Thill has been by far this blog&#8217;s most prolific commenter, and I think advancing the debates in the comments requires [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, another foray into the debate over &#8220;common sense.&#8221; Apologies in advance to those readers who are not interested in this particular topic, or who will find this post&#8217;s precision rough going. Common-sense advocate Thill has been by far this blog&#8217;s most prolific commenter, and I think advancing the debates in the comments requires taking his views on directly and systematically. Moreover, I think the topic is an important one in its own right. The claims made by Thill, Jabali108, Neocarvaka and  Ramachandra1008 in their comments, if they were true, would rule out the vast majority of South Asian philosophical thought (and a great more besides): probably all the philosophy originating in the subcontinent except for the shadowy Cārvāka-Lokāyata school of thought. Only the Cārvākas can be thought to completely exclude &#8220;religious&#8221; ideas from their worldview; but there is little if anything left to be learned from this school now, since all we have from them is the scantest of fragments. (The only surviving complete text attributed to a Cārvāka is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/">Jayarāśi&#8217;s <em>Tattvopaplavasiṃha</em></a>, which these commenters have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/#comment-5898">already</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/#comment-5900">dismissed</a> as not really a Cārvāka text.) If South Asian thought is worth bothering with at all, then we&#8217;ll need to defend those conceptions of the world that are in some respects at odds with various elements of &#8220;common sense&#8221; &#8211; which, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">according to Thill</a>, excludes all &#8220;religion.&#8221; <span id="more-1965"></span></p>
<p>As I did last week, I will assume that my readers have read the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">two</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/">posts</a> that preceded this one on the subject; I will not assume that you have read the comments to those posts. In his <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">first comment</a>, Thill very helpfully gives us his definitions of three key terms whose meanings have so far been elusive in this debate:</p>
<blockquote><p>The word “plausible” also has the meaning “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and this is exactly sense in which I am using that word. Interpreting “plausible” in terms of “apparent truth”, as Amod does, is at odds with this sense.</p>
<p>The word “reliable” means “credible; trustworthy; dependable.” That which is plausible (= worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable) is, therefore, also reliable in this sense.</p>
<p>The word “infallible” means “indubitable; exempt from and incapable of error”. That which is true is also infallible. Truth excludes error and doubt. Hence, knowledge of truth also excludes error and doubt. Therefore, truth and knowledge of truth are infallible.</p></blockquote>
<p>The distinction made here was surprising to me. As it is described here, the distinction between infallibility (on one hand) and plausibility or reliability (on the other) appears to be a distinction between truth and justification. If something is infallible, that means that it is actually <em>true</em>. If it is merely plausible or reliable, that in turn means that it is <em>worthy of being accepted as true</em>, worthy of our trust, credible, believable &#8211; that is, we are justified in believing it. Plausibility and reliability are about justification, not truth as such. And there must be a distinction between the two, for Thill&#8217;s entire <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">argument</a> depends on there being a significant difference between infallibility and reliability (or plausibility), and with these terms defined thus, that requires a distinction between justification and truth. If we are only justified in believing those things that are actually true, then only the infallible (that which must be true) is reliable (that which we are justified in believing); but that is exactly what Thill&#8217;s <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">argument</a> requires him to deny. For Thill there must exist some claims which are reliable but not infallible; and according to the definitions above, these are claims which are at least potentially false but which we are nevertheless justified in believing. (Unless, of course, the ground of these definitions shifts beneath our feet.) If we are never justified in believing false things, then the distinction between reliability and infallibility &#8211; as expressed here &#8211; collapses.</p>
<p>So assuming the distinction between truth and justification in this way (thus allowing for the distinction between infallibility and reliability), let us continue to &#8220;common sense&#8221; &#8211; in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/glenn-walliss-buddhist-manifesto/#comment-5208">Thill&#8217;s definition</a> of the term, as beliefs which can be learned by human beings without special training (which has also <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9406">not yet been defined</a>). Thill, as I understand it, wishes to claim that common sense is  “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable&#8221; &#8211; <em>qua</em> common sense. That is, insofar as something can be learned without specialized training, it is worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable. </p>
<p>Now, let me return to my favourite counterexample. Since we learn without specialized training, from the evidence of our senses, that the sun goes up and down as a thrown baseball does, this fact clearly belongs to common sense as Thill defines it. (And I will <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">reiterate</a> that if common sense merely tells us that the sun <em>appears</em> to go up and down, then it must be superseded by specialized training when it comes to the actual truth, for it tells us only about appearances and not truth. If common sense is to have any of the philosophical weight claimed for it, certainly if it is to be considered reliable, then it must tell us about reality and not merely appearance.) It is for that reason &#8211; it has been in response to this claim &#8211; that Thill has already accepted or at least implied, repeatedly, that common sense is not infallible. As must be the case, for in this case the conclusions of common sense are simply false. </p>
<p>Now what of reliability and plausibility? If common sense <em>qua</em> common sense is “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable,&#8221; this too must include the false claim that the sun literally rises and falls. Thill introduces the distinction between infallibility on one hand, and reliability or plausibility on the other, in order to claim that every single common-sense claim is, if not infallible, still reliable and plausible. But this set of claims includes the claim that the sun rises and falls. The claim of the sun&#8217;s rising and falling, because it is a member of the set of commonsense claims, must therefore be considered “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable&#8221; &#8211; <em>even though we have already agreed it to be false.</em> We cannot avoid such absurdities so long as we consider a commonsense claim “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” merely on the grounds that it is common sense. (And if you <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9367">don&#8217;t like this example</a>, I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9405">reiterate</a> that if common sense is indeed not infallible, there must be cases where it is wrong, and those cases may be substituted here <em>mutatis mutandis</em>.)</p>
<p>Now several of the critiques that the commenters have made to my posts have suggested that they assume common sense is all or nothing: if I say (as I have) that common sense as a category is not reliable, that must imply that every member of the category is unreliable. But, as Ben has rightly and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9359">repeatedly</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9442">noted</a>,  this assumption is a pretty basic logical mistake. I have never said that everything which falls in Thill&#8217;s category of &#8220;common sense&#8221; is false, or even that most of it is. I am merely saying this: the bare fact that a claim falls within the category of common sense is insufficient reason to consider the claim worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable. Each claim must be accepted on its own merits, based on the variety of sources of knowledge we have available to us (logic, perception, trustworthy authority). The fact that something is learned without specialized training does not make it worthy of belief, any more than the fact that it is learned with specialized training. </p>
<p>This point (in addition to brevity) is why I entitled the earlier post &#8220;lack of training is not reliable&#8221; rather than &#8220;beliefs achieved without training are not reliable.&#8221; Some beliefs obtained without specialized training are indeed reliable, in the sense discussed here; but their reliability does not stem from the absence of specialized training. I reiterate: the fact of a belief&#8217;s being learned without specialized training does not make that belief worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable &#8211; let alone actually make the belief true. </p>
<p>One further note: So far I have been pushing ahead with objections to the common-sense advocates&#8217; views and their logical flaws. I have not yet addressed a central objection that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/#comment-9059">they</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/#comment-9025">have</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9357">made</a> to my view: that ways of knowing other than common sense (such as science) themselves depend for their reliability on common sense itself. This point should be addressed, especially given some of the claims I have just made in this post, and I intend to do so. (Ben has already made some <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9440">important points</a> on the topic.) I intend to take it up in a post soon, but this one is already long enough. Let us discuss the matters here in the meantime.</p>
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