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		<title>Ken Wilber&#8217;s breadth and its importance</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the past couple months I&#8217;ve been busy writing a critique of Ken Wilber&#8216;s thought on &#8220;religion&#8221;, to be submitted to the journal devoted to his thought. I&#8217;ve been critical of Wilber before, and that article will be no different. In the next week or two I expect to post about some further criticisms that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ken-Wilber.jpg"><img src="http://loveofallwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ken-Wilber-199x300.jpg" alt="" title="Ken Wilber" width="199" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2260" /></a>For the past couple months I&#8217;ve been busy writing a critique of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/ken-wilber/">Ken Wilber</a>&#8216;s thought on &#8220;religion&#8221;, to be submitted to the <a href="http://aqaljournal.integralinstitute.org/Public/">journal</a> devoted to his thought. I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/how-not-to-think-dialectically/">critical</a> of Wilber <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilber-and-aurobindo-on-intelligent-design/">before</a>, and that article will be no different. In the next week or two I expect to post about some further criticisms that the article didn&#8217;t have room for.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t want all these criticisms to make it sound like I think Wilber&#8217;s thought is silly, fruitless or otherwise wrong-headed. Quite the opposite. I engage with Wilber&#8217;s ideas this much precisely because his project is so important and valuable. Granted, his writings don&#8217;t stand up well to either analytic or continental <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2012/01/assessing-philosophy/">assessment</a>: his arguments are sometimes maddeningly imprecise, and his readings of other thinkers tend strongly to the superficial. But what Wilber lacks in precision and depth, he makes up for in <em>breadth</em>. <span id="more-2259"></span></p>
<p>For the thing about both the analytic and continental standards of assessment is that they are both generated in the context of contemporary academia &#8211; and that is a context that gives out all its rewards to those who <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/12/academias-details/">think small</a>. When good work is considered to be that which gets the details exactly right, it&#8217;s much easier to generate endless articles saying new things, because there are so many new details to talk about. The nonacademic book publishing industry has its own problematic incentives, but they are not the same ones. They don&#8217;t push authors to precise nitpicky detail in the same way; and that&#8217;s a valuable counterbalance to academia. I do think academia&#8217;s details <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/11/philosophical-single-mindedness-2/">matter a lot</a>. But they matter <em>because</em> they are part of a larger whole. We will not really be able to make sense of the world and our lives if we can&#8217;t understand what that whole is, how everything fits together. And that&#8217;s where Wilber comes in. </p>
<p>Wilber&#8217;s project is an audacious one: to integrate all the different realms of human knowledge, including the &#8220;great wisdom traditions&#8221; like Buddhism and Christianity. He tries hard to bring together &#8220;religion&#8221; and science, and he understands that philosophy has a key role in that process.</p>
<p>It would be one thing to make a mere catalogue of these different kinds of knowledge, a road map to the most important books. That much has been done before. Wilber, by contrast, actually tries to consider the <em>truth</em> of the ideas he studies. And not just in terms of declaring them true or declaring them false, but trying to <em>find the truth in</em> all of them. He proclaims, rightly I think, that &#8220;no human mind can produce 100% error.&#8221; And more than that: when an idea comes to last across multiple generations, that suggests there is particular truth to it &#8211; it&#8217;s not tied to the madness of one particular clique or the whimsy of one era, but is reinvented with every new birth who take it up and find it valuable for explaining the world and our place in it. Somehow, the ideas need to go together.</p>
<p>This approach too has been taken before to some extent. G.W.F. Hegel tried harder than most. While I think Hegel was more methodologically sophisticated than Wilber, there is a lot missing from Hegel&#8217;s synthesis. Science, especially, has changed a lot, making Hegel&#8217;s <a href="http://www.gwfhegel.org/Nature/">philosophy of nature</a> difficult to accept; so too, Hegel&#8217;s thought has no room for the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/10/the-singular-achievement-of-the-20th-century/">shining achievement</a> of the 20th century, namely feminism and the liberation of women. And while Hegel at least attempted to include Asian philosophies in his synthesis, in a way that few had before, they were <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/hegel-in-space/">stuck</a> at the earliest and lowest level of his philosophy, making Hegel &#8220;strong with respect to time and weak with respect to space&#8221;. All of these vast gaps in Hegel&#8217;s thought &#8211; science, feminism, Asian philosophy &#8211; Wilber has tried hard to give a central place in his thought. His attempted synthesis is the widest one I know of &#8211; much more so than that of, say, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/mou-zongsans-theories-across-cultures/">Mou Zongsan</a>, who says little if anything about Judaism or Advaita Vedānta, let alone feminism and science. Wilber gives us some vision of what a unified synthesis now <em>could</em> look like.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t accept most of the contours of the synthesis Wilber comes up with, but some of the concepts that make it up have been very valuable to my reflection, especially <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/ascent-and-descent/">ascent and descent</a> and the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/pre-and-trans-ego/">pre-trans fallacy</a>. And beyond the particular concepts, the nature of the project itself is particularly valuable in the era of detail-obsessed academia. Philologists and analytic philosophers usually can&#8217;t see the forest for the trees. Wilber&#8217;s sweeping generalizations give him the opposite problem: he has a hard time getting the whole forest because he doesn&#8217;t understand the trees that make it up. But when the structures of textual production today lead so overwhelmingly to a focus on nitpicky details with no larger context, Wilber&#8217;s problem is a good one for a thinker to have. </p>
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		<title>What it means to have a reason for action</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the most fundamental things a philosopher does is to ask why. When someone says &#8220;you should do x&#8221; or &#8220;y is good,&#8221; it seems to me, the true lover of wisdom needs to ask why this is the case. If someone tells me I should do something and can&#8217;t provide a reason, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most fundamental things a philosopher does is to ask why. When someone says &#8220;you should do x&#8221; or &#8220;y is good,&#8221; it seems to me, the true lover of wisdom needs to ask why this is the case. If someone tells me I should do something and can&#8217;t provide a reason, I see this as grounds for questioning whether it really is something I should do at all. Nietzsche, if he does nothing else, shows us that the things we take as obvious may well not be so. </p>
<p>So what happens when we try to take our reasons all the way down? When we continue asking why we should do anything? We begin to get to a complex meta-ethical question: what constitutes a reason for action? What is it to have a reason to do something? (Warning: this will be an abstract and theoretical post, but it is important to fundamental questions like <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/why-should-we-do-anything/">why we should do anything at all</a>.) <span id="more-155"></span></p>
<p>There are at least three things that this last question could mean, three things we could be saying when we speak of having reasons. I like to distinguish the different kinds of reasons in terms of grammar: it&#8217;s so far the most precise way I&#8217;ve found of spelling them out. There is on one hand a difference of case, between <i>ablative</i> and <i>dative</i> reasons; and on the other a difference of person, between <i>third-person</i> and <i>first-person</i> reasons. English has the second of these distinctions but not the first.</p>
<p>I know the distinction between ablative and dative from my study of Sanskrit and Pali (and to a lesser extent Latin) grammar; the same distinction, I believe, is there in Greek. (It&#8217;s not there in German, which has only a dative and no ablative.) In Sanskrit, ablative and dative case endings can both be used to express what we would normally call reasons; but they are very different kinds of reasons. The ablative case describes a cause; it describes the reason <i>why we did</i> something (or why we&#8217;re doing it or will do it). The dative case describes a purpose; it describes our reason <i>to</i> do something. The ablative in this sense is translated with &#8220;because&#8221;; the dative, with &#8220;in order to.&#8221;</p>
<p>So when we speak of reasons, it can be helpful to specify whether we&#8217;re speaking of reasons in the sense expressed by the dative, or only by the ablative. Ablative reasons are the reasons that natural scientists are best at expressing; they&#8217;re the only kinds of reasons discovered by chemistry or physics. Everything in the universe acts according to ablative reasons: the rock fell because it had been dropped (and because of gravity). Essentially, they are causes; the &#8220;why&#8221; in an ablative reason can be replaced with a &#8220;how.&#8221; In <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">Aristotle&#8217;s scheme of four explanations</a>, they are efficient explanations.</p>
<p>Dative reasons, by contrast, are final explanations; they have to do with purpose, aims, teleology. On Aristotle&#8217;s understanding, everything had a dative reason; for a modern scientific understanding, this is not the case. There is no <i>purpose</i> to rocks falling or the sun shining. There <i>is</i>, however, some sort of purpose in the biological action of lifeforms, even on a purely scientific explanation. We cannot explain the movements of, say, blood clotting in a wound <i>entirely</i> on the basis of chemical and physical movement; we explain the blood clotting much more effectively if we can talk about what it&#8217;s <i>for</i>, namely to protect the wound and stop bleeding. Purpose is such a central part of biological explanation that, until Darwin, it was the most obvious and preferred <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-god-hypothesis/">proof for the existence of God</a>. Everything biological, from the cell to the ecosystem, acts with some purpose to the preservation and reproduction of life; how could this have happened without the action of a God? Nobody had a good answer to that question until Darwin; ever since then, evolution replaced God in explanations, and people have made attempts to base ethics on evolution (usually <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/e-o-wilson-and-the-limits-of-empiricism/">failing miserably</a>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s dative and not ablative reasons that are of interest to me here. Ablative reasons help us explain the action of the universe; but they tell us less of interest for ethics. To ask &#8220;why should we do something?&#8221; we need to ask about purpose.</p>
<p>Some &#8211; especially Kant &#8211; would step in and require a further distinction among dative reasons. The best way I&#8217;ve found of putting this distinction is also grammatical: third-person versus first-person reasons. (My grad-school colleague Drew Schroeder used this distinction to help explain Kant to me, though I don&#8217;t think Kant himself puts it in those terms.) When a biologist explains blood clotting in terms of its purpose, Kant would say, that explanation too has nothing to do with what actions we should actually take. The purpose of our action has to come from within <i>us</i>.</p>
<p>Sociologists and psychologists can easily explain actions in dative terms. This is clearest in the case of functionalists like Talcott Parsons, for whom basically every social phenomenon can be explained in terms of its purpose for society at large, but pretty much every social scientist will explain actions in terms of <i>some</i> sort of purpose, including individual self-interest or evolutionary fitness. But they&#8217;re still explaining action causally, looking at the social or biological variables that cause one course of action to be taken rather than not taken. In the end these third-person dative reasons still turn out to be efficient explanations: we ask what something is for only in order to explain what caused it. First-person reasons are different: they&#8217;re the reasons that we use for choice and deliberation in an action. </p>
<p>On the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/why-should-we-do-anything/">internalist</a> view, I think, these distinctions look a bit less important. If our reasons for action come down to our existing desires or other motivations, then it may well be sufficient to say that we want X because it gives us pleasure, and it gives us pleasure because our upbringing predisposes us that way. But I think it&#8217;s that very way of phrasing the question that looks suspicious to the externalist. Should we really take a view that&#8217;s that conservative &#8211; that just leaves the preferences formed by genes and upbringing as they are? Don&#8217;t we want to have better reasons than just being slaves of our pasts? It&#8217;s the sorts of judgements implied in those questions &#8211; the idea that it is better to make a free and rational choice &#8211; that Kant appeals to, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too hard to see the appeal in his view.</p>
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		<title>Value as proof of God</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The posts of the previous couple weeks begin to add up to an argument for the existence of something like God &#8211; a value or goodness that is an inextricable part of the basic structure of reality. It strikes me that a significant part of this line of reasoning also underlies most of the widely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The posts of the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/">previous</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/10/why-evolution-doesnt-explain-value/">couple</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/10/the-buddhist-problem-of-value/">weeks</a> begin to add up to an argument for the existence of <em>something like</em> God &#8211; a value or goodness that is an inextricable part of the basic structure of reality. It strikes me that a significant part of this line of reasoning also underlies most of the widely known philosophical proofs for the existence of God. These proofs (at least on their own) do not take us to any of the particular Abrahamic views of God, as revealed in Qur&#8217;an or Torah or the person of Jesus Christ, but they are often taken as a first step to getting there.<br />
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<p>Probably the most widespread argument for the existence of God today is the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">cosmological argument</a>. (I discount the &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_epistemology">Reformed epistemology</a>&#8221; argument, which is not actually an argument that God exists but only that those who already believe in him should continue to do so.) According to the cosmological argument, we need explanations for everything, and then explanations for those explanations, which ultimately must come back to a First Explanation. In the more simplistic and less satisfying versions of this argument, the First Explanation is simply a first <em>cause</em>, a temporal beginning that sets the universe in motion. Such a first cause has little to do with the claims I&#8217;ve been making about value. But as I&#8217;ve noted a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">couple</a> of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/10/why-evolution-doesnt-explain-value/">times</a>, the First Cause is hardly a proof of anything Godlike. After that first act of creation, the First Cause can just go home and ignore us and be ignored. </p>
<p>But things look rather different through if we view explanation more broadly, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">as Aristotle did</a>. For among Aristotle&#8217;s four <em>aitia</em>, the so-called &#8220;four causes&#8221; that are really four explanations, is the &#8220;final&#8221; explanation: one explains a thing through its <em>purpose</em>, its <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telos_(philosophy)">telos</a>, what it is for. And on the more sophisticated cosmological argument, not merely causes but <em>purposes</em> must go back to something: there must be a First Purpose of sorts, the <em>telos</em> of every other <em>telos</em>, an end to end all ends. The First Purpose, as opposed to the First Cause, is exactly an explanation of value; questions of &#8220;why should I do X?&#8221; will ultimately lead back to it. And if such an ultimate purpose exists, it takes the kind of guiding role in our lives that God would be expected to take. </p>
<p><a href="http://afterall.net/papers/491366">C.S. Lewis&#8217;s moral argument</a> for God&#8217;s existence claims that there is a basic universal human set of moral rules, and that this could not exist without a creator having put it there. I don&#8217;t think this argument works;  differences in historically observed moral codes are far greater than Lewis takes them to be, and Lewis too readily conflates explanation at the level of value with the kind of causal explanation that evolution at least theoretically <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/10/why-evolution-doesnt-explain-value/">could provide</a>. However, it seems to me that in his own confused way, Lewis is trying to get at something like the argument of the earlier weeks: to posit God as the explanation for real value. In that sense, it seems to me that Lewis&#8217;s argument, like the First Cause argument, turns out to be a confused version of the more sophisticated First Purpose argument. </p>
<p>Even <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/the-god-that-matters/">Anselm&#8217;s ontological argument</a> can be viewed in a somewhat similar light. Unlike the First Purpose and moral arguments, it is not exactly an attempt to explain the existence of value. But it does something parallel. It starts with an idea of value and goodness of a certain kind, observed by the mind, in the concept of a perfect being. This concept doesn&#8217;t make sense &#8211; so the argument goes &#8211; unless it exists in reality. The evaluative concept of a highest perfection, here, cannot be understood unless it turns out to really exist.</p>
<p>Whether the <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/design/">argument from design</a> also follows a similar line of reasoning is more debatable. In a sense it works by conflating cause and purpose &#8211; by examining the purposes apparent in living beings and assuming those must be caused by an intelligent designer. But then it doesn&#8217;t really matter, because that is the one argument that &#8211; <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilber-and-aurobindo-on-intelligent-design/">notwithstanding</a> the arguments of intelligent design proponents &#8211; has been decisively refuted by <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/the-god-hypothesis/">empirical evidence</a>. With the idea of evolution to explain the complexity of life on earth, we do not need an idea of God; of course there are gaps in evolutionary theory, as there are in any scientific theory, but they are much smaller than the gaps in any theory of divine design. Before Darwin, the design argument was by far the most compelling argument for God&#8217;s existence; now it is the least, and not because the others have gotten any stronger. </p>
<p>I tie together the proofs of God in this way because I want to get at the heart of the God question in philosophy &#8211; and I think that question ultimately comes down to the problem of bad and the problem of good. It is not that I necessarily buy any of the arguments discussed here, even the more sophisticated ones. The problem of suffering is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/what-i-learned-teaching-abrahamic-monotheism/">too intractable</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s at least as big a problem for those who believe in God as the problem of value is for those who don&#8217;t. But perhaps there is some sort of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/how-to-answer-the-perennial-questions/">dialectical synthesis</a> to be found in between?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/">last week&#8217;s post</a> was insufficiently argued. But I think it may have been helpful as a springboard for further (potentially more carefully argued) reflection; I expect that next week&#8217;s post, as well as this one, will follow up on it. I argued last week that attempts to explain value judgements seem to run into trouble when they don&#8217;t ground those judgements in a deeper metaphysical reality. I looked at this problem there largely in terms of the early twentieth-century analytic tradition. But I didn&#8217;t address one of the most common non-metaphysical attempts to explain value judgements: the evolutionary explanation.  </p>
<p><a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/#comment-10494">Several</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/#comment-10495">comments</a> from Jesse took this approach. &#8220;Morality,&#8221; he claims, &#8220;has existed in some form or other since the first self-replicating proteins formed in the primordial ocean.&#8221; Citing <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/game-theory/">game theory</a>, he notes that organisms which helped each other out would have been far more likely to survive and thrive. Ethan Mills, while somewhat <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/#comment-10510">skeptical</a> of the game-theoretic explanation, still cites <a href="http://www.jamesrachels.org/">James Rachels</a> for another kind of evolutionary explanation: at the social rather than individual level, societies wouldn&#8217;t have lasted long without morality.</p>
<p>Now I am not and was not speaking only of &#8220;morality&#8221; in the sense of aiding (or refusing to harm) others. (There was a reason the word &#8220;morality&#8221; didn&#8217;t appear in that post.) As I noted in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/#comment-10511">comment</a>, I was also speaking of other kinds of value &#8211; including virtues like self-discipline and patient endurance that would be valuable whether or not anyone else is around, and for that matter of aesthetic value, the value in good art or the beauty of nature. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not the big issue here, for it&#8217;s not so hard to come up with evolutionary explanations for these other kinds of value either. Self-disciplined creatures would very likely have adapted better to their environments. There are plenty of people, perhaps most notably <a href="http://theartinstinct.com/">Denis Dutton</a>, who have even tried to find evolutionary explanations for aesthetics.</p>
<p>I am not going to pass judgement here on whether evolution is a correct or adequate causal explanation for the origins of human value judgements. For the sake of argument, in this post, I am going to assume that such accounts get the causal origin of value judgements basically correct. Because far more important is a deeper criticism: they miss the point. <span id="more-2087"></span></p>
<p>The error being made here is parallel to the one that tries to prove God&#8217;s existence merely as a First Cause of the universe, not as a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">First Explanation</a>. In this bastardized version of the cosmological argument, the causal processes of the universe must have a starting point, identified with God &#8211; a rather <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/the-god-that-matters/">useless God</a>, one that doesn&#8217;t mean anything more than the Big Bang. But the intellectually respectable form of the cosmological argument isn&#8217;t just about causes, but about <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-four-explanations-and-the-first-explanation/">other kinds of explanation</a>: not just where the world comes from, but what its essence is and what it&#8217;s for. </p>
<p>Return more directly to the present topic: to explain the <em>causes</em> of value judgements, to identify where they have their origin, is not actually to explain value. What this kind of explanation explains is the bare fact that people happen to make judgements of value. What it doesn&#8217;t and can&#8217;t explain is the <em>truth or falsity</em> of those judgements. To have an adequate account of ethics and values, we need to know not merely why people happen to <em>think</em> some things good and some things bad (or why they act accordingly). We need to know why things <em>actually are</em> good and bad. (Our mode of explanation needs to be ethics, not <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/04/ethics-vs-ethics-studies/">ethics studies</a>.)</p>
<p>Few are seriously prepared to jettison this distinction, between what actually is good or bad and what people merely believe to be so. We want to say that Pol Pot was <em>wrong</em> when he thought it was a good thing to commit genocide on his own people. To consistently say such a thing requires that we believe value judgements can be correct or incorrect; they need to have a referent, to refer to the action having a real goodness or badness independent of whether the agent takes the action or believes in its goodness. (Some do try and advocate a thoroughgoing value relativism, of course; I have responded to some such arguments <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/a-relativist-gongfu-ethics/">here</a>, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/02/what-does-postmodernism-perform/">here</a> and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/why-worry-about-contradictions/">here</a>.)</p>
<p>I think the early analytic philosophers, more than those who find evolutionary explanations sufficient, at least grappled with this problem &#8211; they just failed to solve it. They asked: what do we mean when we <em>call</em> something good or bad? Those who try to reduce judgements of good or bad to a simple descriptive property &#8211; good is what fosters the species, produces pleasure, etc. &#8211; run into trouble pretty quickly, for it&#8217;s pretty clear that a great many usages of &#8220;good&#8221; do <em>not</em> simply mean any of these things. One could try and argue that those who use &#8220;good&#8221; to mean anything other than species preservation or the production of pleasure are <em>mistaken</em>, but they&#8217;ll have a pretty hard time making the case. Neil Sinhababu made a <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?oxmzrdi0ozo">valiant effort</a>, but I have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/10/is-pleasure-the-only-intrinsic-good/">argued</a> that he failed, with some <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/11/the-pleasurable-life-of-a-doll/">additional thoughts</a>. </p>
<p>I have many problems with G.E. Moore&#8217;s concept of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy">naturalistic fallacy</a>, and especially with the inadequate alternative he provided (as I discussed last week) &#8211; but I suspect that this important point is where he was coming from when he came up with it. Moore took the idea of the naturalistic fallacy much too far; I think one can legitimately make inferences from &#8220;is&#8221; to &#8220;ought&#8221; statements, but one should still be careful about doing so, especially when one puts a particular kind of descriptive claim at the heart of one&#8217;s ethics. The problem is nicely illustrated by Ayn Rand in this deeply problematic passage:</p>
<blockquote><p>the fact that living entities exist and function necessitates the existence of values and of an ultimate value which for any given living entity is its own life. Thus the validation of value judgments is to be achieved by reference to the facts of reality. The fact that a living entity <strong>is</strong>, determines what it <strong>ought</strong> to do. So much for the issue of the relation between &#8220;is&#8221; and &#8220;ought.&#8221; (<a href="http://marsexxx.com/ycnex/Ayn_Rand-The_Virtue_of_Selfishness.pdf">The Virtue of Selfishness</a>, p.17)</p></blockquote>
<p>What Rand doesn&#8217;t seem to have thought of is that such a view can have absolutely nothing to say to the person who chooses to kill herself &#8211; in suicide, in war, in civil disobedience. If your system of values comes out of the desire to live, it is irrelevant to anyone who takes that desire as unimportant. I think there&#8217;s a similar problem with the point Ethan makes in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/09/finding-value-at-the-heart-of-reality/#comment-10510">his comment</a> that Buddhism is ultimately based on our desire to end suffering; not everybody treats that desire as decisively important, and I think Buddhists have a problem addressing those who don&#8217;t. (I intend to take up this point more next week.) </p>
<p>How to get around this problem? I note that Ethan lists Aristotle as having a &#8220;naturalist&#8221; theory of ethics comparable to Rand&#8217;s or Sinhababu&#8217;s. But Aristotle&#8217;s theory is a bit different from theirs, in that he sees value as an inextricable part of the natural world. The idea of God as First Explanation ultimately derives from his thought, because for him explanation needs to be teleological as well as causal: you need to explain things in terms of their purposes, what they&#8217;re for, as well as their (efficient) causes, what put them there. Aristotle&#8217;s views of nature are of course tied up with beliefs about causes that we cannot share in a scientific age. But it seems to me that we may still need <em>something like</em> them in order to make sense of value. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can we, or should we, learn what is true and what is false? This is one of the most enduring and basic questions in philosophy &#8211; &#8220;basic&#8221; because it is fundamental to so many others, not because the answers are in any way easy or simple. The question, or some form of it, came [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we, or should we, learn what is true and what is false? This is one of the most enduring and basic questions in philosophy &#8211; &#8220;basic&#8221; because it is fundamental to so many others, not because the answers are in any way easy or simple.</p>
<p>The question, or some form of it, came up a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9357">number</a> of <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9374">times</a> in recent discussions of &#8220;common sense&#8221;: if common sense isn&#8217;t reliable, I was asked, what is? I&#8217;m going to try to avoid the word &#8220;reliable&#8221; as I think its different uses became confusing in the previous debate; I have little stake in its use as a term. But the basic question of determining truth from falsehood is a crucial one and worth asking.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say, however, that it admits easy answers, for I don&#8217;t think we should expect easy answers on the most basic philosophical questions. <span id="more-1977"></span> If the answers were easy, it would be a stunning and bizarre fact that so many intelligent people have spent so long trying to answer them and explain them without coming to a resolution (as indeed has, so far, been the case in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">the</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/">recent</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/of-the-plausibility-or-reliability-of-common-sense/">debates</a>, though these have lasted only weeks and not centuries). This is one reason why I don&#8217;t identify knowledge of the truth as deriving from a single source like &#8220;common sense&#8221; &#8211; though my posts and comments should make clear I have many more specific problems with that concept, especially as defined by Thill and other commenters on this blog.</p>
<p>How should we identify truth instead? The question of how we should discern truth is closely linked to the question of how, in practice, we <em>do</em> discern it. I like to say that we start where we are: we assess new information learned by reasoning out its coherence with the information we have already accepted. The new information comes in through sense perception one way or another, though the perception might be of someone else&#8217;s testimony: I observe you tell me something. </p>
<p>So I think the Vedānta schools are probably right when they describe the means of knowledge (<i>pramāṇa</i>s) as perception, inference and authority &#8211; that is, the testimony of sources we trust. But that&#8217;s not to say any of these sources are always right. Rather, they&#8217;re right often enough to be worthy of our belief <em>unless</em> there is some reason to mistrust them in a particular case: for example, I would normally believe my eyes telling me that there is a large yellow stick floating in front of me, but I can&#8217;t touch the stick and I have heard that this perception is a symptom of eye diseases, so I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>When a particular belief is in question, though, it&#8217;s not enough to refute it merely by saying we learned its contrary through any of these means of knowledge; for they can be, and often are, wrong. Moreover, this is not a matter of one means taking precedence over another. Yes, my senses tell me that the sun revolves around the earth; but because I trust the authority of trained astronomers, I know that this is not the case. Or alternately: a scientist friend (in this case our esteemed commenter Ben) tells me there&#8217;s a new article in a refereed psychology journal telling us that caffeine doesn&#8217;t actually increase alertness; but I don&#8217;t accept this claim because it is so completely contrary to my felt and observed experience of caffeine&#8217;s effects on myself. The conclusions must have been misreported, or something wrong with the methodology, or the sample unrepresentative, or the definitions of &#8220;alertness&#8221; something very different from what I understand by it. </p>
<p>But how do I, or should I, make the decision in those cases where means of knowledge conflict with each other or with themselves? I don&#8217;t think a hard-and-fast rule can be provided. Providing an easy and definitive answer to the question &#8220;How can I tell true from false?&#8221; is like providing an easy and definitive answer to the question &#8220;How can I become a better fiddle player?&#8221; Discernment of true and false is a virtue, a skill learned with time and practice; there is a wealth of tips and advice one can offer about how to do it better, but one can&#8217;t provide a formula for it that will settle disputes in advance. (Or rather, one <em>can</em>; it&#8217;s just that one will be wrong.) In saying this, I&#8217;m expressing agreement with a contemporary school of analytic philosophy known as <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-virtue/">virtue epistemology</a>.</p>
<p>Thill <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9418">disputes</a> such claims: </p>
<blockquote><p>If you have easy answers to determine what is unreliable, indeed, if you can go to the absurd length of deeming common sense (on which you rely for your very survival) unreliable, you can surely specify what you consider reliable and what you depend on to function in the world&#8230;. your claim that it is not easy to ascertain what is reliable implies that it is not easy to ascertain what is unreliable. This is at odds with your easy dismissal of the appeal to common sense on the grounds that it is unreliable.</p></blockquote>
<p>But I&#8217;ve made no such easy dismissal. The easy answer Thill asked for, as far as I can tell, is a statement of &#8220;that which is X is reliable and that which is not-X is not,&#8221; an exaltation of one single source of knowledge in the way that Thill exalts common sense, which is what I&#8217;ve refused to provide here and elsewhere. My <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">refutation</a> of &#8220;common sense&#8221; as a reliable source of knowledge didn&#8217;t rely on a single-sentence knockdown; more importantly, it didn&#8217;t say simply &#8220;all X is true and all Y is not,&#8221; but tried to show us the complexity of the world and of knowledge. I have never said that the items of knowledge included in &#8220;common sense&#8221; are always wrong; indeed, I suspect most of them are right. The point was that we do not have any special reason to believe a claim based on the fact that it is said to belong to &#8220;common sense&#8221; (in the sense of knowledge learned without training). </p>
<p>If my alternative view can be described in a sentence, it is probably this: we need to engage in the complex process of knowing as best we can. And if that sounds vague, that&#8217;s because it is, intentionally. You should be suspicious of anyone who claims to give you a single easy tip that sums up the whole of how to play the fiddle, do successful biology experiments, or pick up romantic partners. You should be similarly suspicious of anyone who claims to easily sum up how to tell truth from falsehood in the general case.</p>
<p>There is, of course, plenty to be learned in each of these practices; that&#8217;s one of the reasons they&#8217;re <em>not</em> easy. There are various tips and tricks that can aid in each: play emphasized notes with a down stroke of the bow; control as many variables as you can; groom your hair carefully; trust the conclusions of scientists with expertise in their fields. All of these tips are generally wise, but still admit exceptions: there are two emphasized notes of the same pitch in a row; controlling an additional variable would cost so much that you&#8217;d need to hire fewer staff and make careless mistakes; you&#8217;re courting someone who likes the dishevelled look; the scientist misspoke because she&#8217;s having a bad day. And in each field there is also advice offered that is well meaning but inappropriate, advice we should <em>not</em> take: play as fast as you can; fudge your data a bit and nobody will notice; pretend to be wealthier than you are; treat a claim as true because one can learn it without specialized training. The acceptance or refutation of one of these tips may be a relatively simple matter by itself; but that doesn&#8217;t make the whole practice an easy one.</p>
<p>Is this a definitive account of how we can discern truth? No, it&#8217;s just a start. But that&#8217;s the point.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week, another foray into the debate over &#8220;common sense.&#8221; Apologies in advance to those readers who are not interested in this particular topic, or who will find this post&#8217;s precision rough going. Common-sense advocate Thill has been by far this blog&#8217;s most prolific commenter, and I think advancing the debates in the comments requires [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, another foray into the debate over &#8220;common sense.&#8221; Apologies in advance to those readers who are not interested in this particular topic, or who will find this post&#8217;s precision rough going. Common-sense advocate Thill has been by far this blog&#8217;s most prolific commenter, and I think advancing the debates in the comments requires taking his views on directly and systematically. Moreover, I think the topic is an important one in its own right. The claims made by Thill, Jabali108, Neocarvaka and  Ramachandra1008 in their comments, if they were true, would rule out the vast majority of South Asian philosophical thought (and a great more besides): probably all the philosophy originating in the subcontinent except for the shadowy Cārvāka-Lokāyata school of thought. Only the Cārvākas can be thought to completely exclude &#8220;religious&#8221; ideas from their worldview; but there is little if anything left to be learned from this school now, since all we have from them is the scantest of fragments. (The only surviving complete text attributed to a Cārvāka is <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/">Jayarāśi&#8217;s <em>Tattvopaplavasiṃha</em></a>, which these commenters have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/#comment-5898">already</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/skepticism-in-two-directions/#comment-5900">dismissed</a> as not really a Cārvāka text.) If South Asian thought is worth bothering with at all, then we&#8217;ll need to defend those conceptions of the world that are in some respects at odds with various elements of &#8220;common sense&#8221; &#8211; which, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">according to Thill</a>, excludes all &#8220;religion.&#8221; <span id="more-1965"></span></p>
<p>As I did last week, I will assume that my readers have read the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">two</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/">posts</a> that preceded this one on the subject; I will not assume that you have read the comments to those posts. In his <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">first comment</a>, Thill very helpfully gives us his definitions of three key terms whose meanings have so far been elusive in this debate:</p>
<blockquote><p>The word “plausible” also has the meaning “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and this is exactly sense in which I am using that word. Interpreting “plausible” in terms of “apparent truth”, as Amod does, is at odds with this sense.</p>
<p>The word “reliable” means “credible; trustworthy; dependable.” That which is plausible (= worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable) is, therefore, also reliable in this sense.</p>
<p>The word “infallible” means “indubitable; exempt from and incapable of error”. That which is true is also infallible. Truth excludes error and doubt. Hence, knowledge of truth also excludes error and doubt. Therefore, truth and knowledge of truth are infallible.</p></blockquote>
<p>The distinction made here was surprising to me. As it is described here, the distinction between infallibility (on one hand) and plausibility or reliability (on the other) appears to be a distinction between truth and justification. If something is infallible, that means that it is actually <em>true</em>. If it is merely plausible or reliable, that in turn means that it is <em>worthy of being accepted as true</em>, worthy of our trust, credible, believable &#8211; that is, we are justified in believing it. Plausibility and reliability are about justification, not truth as such. And there must be a distinction between the two, for Thill&#8217;s entire <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">argument</a> depends on there being a significant difference between infallibility and reliability (or plausibility), and with these terms defined thus, that requires a distinction between justification and truth. If we are only justified in believing those things that are actually true, then only the infallible (that which must be true) is reliable (that which we are justified in believing); but that is exactly what Thill&#8217;s <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9271">argument</a> requires him to deny. For Thill there must exist some claims which are reliable but not infallible; and according to the definitions above, these are claims which are at least potentially false but which we are nevertheless justified in believing. (Unless, of course, the ground of these definitions shifts beneath our feet.) If we are never justified in believing false things, then the distinction between reliability and infallibility &#8211; as expressed here &#8211; collapses.</p>
<p>So assuming the distinction between truth and justification in this way (thus allowing for the distinction between infallibility and reliability), let us continue to &#8220;common sense&#8221; &#8211; in <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/glenn-walliss-buddhist-manifesto/#comment-5208">Thill&#8217;s definition</a> of the term, as beliefs which can be learned by human beings without special training (which has also <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9406">not yet been defined</a>). Thill, as I understand it, wishes to claim that common sense is  “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable&#8221; &#8211; <em>qua</em> common sense. That is, insofar as something can be learned without specialized training, it is worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable. </p>
<p>Now, let me return to my favourite counterexample. Since we learn without specialized training, from the evidence of our senses, that the sun goes up and down as a thrown baseball does, this fact clearly belongs to common sense as Thill defines it. (And I will <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/">reiterate</a> that if common sense merely tells us that the sun <em>appears</em> to go up and down, then it must be superseded by specialized training when it comes to the actual truth, for it tells us only about appearances and not truth. If common sense is to have any of the philosophical weight claimed for it, certainly if it is to be considered reliable, then it must tell us about reality and not merely appearance.) It is for that reason &#8211; it has been in response to this claim &#8211; that Thill has already accepted or at least implied, repeatedly, that common sense is not infallible. As must be the case, for in this case the conclusions of common sense are simply false. </p>
<p>Now what of reliability and plausibility? If common sense <em>qua</em> common sense is “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable,&#8221; this too must include the false claim that the sun literally rises and falls. Thill introduces the distinction between infallibility on one hand, and reliability or plausibility on the other, in order to claim that every single common-sense claim is, if not infallible, still reliable and plausible. But this set of claims includes the claim that the sun rises and falls. The claim of the sun&#8217;s rising and falling, because it is a member of the set of commonsense claims, must therefore be considered “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” and &#8220;credible; trustworthy; dependable&#8221; &#8211; <em>even though we have already agreed it to be false.</em> We cannot avoid such absurdities so long as we consider a commonsense claim “worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable” merely on the grounds that it is common sense. (And if you <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9367">don&#8217;t like this example</a>, I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9405">reiterate</a> that if common sense is indeed not infallible, there must be cases where it is wrong, and those cases may be substituted here <em>mutatis mutandis</em>.)</p>
<p>Now several of the critiques that the commenters have made to my posts have suggested that they assume common sense is all or nothing: if I say (as I have) that common sense as a category is not reliable, that must imply that every member of the category is unreliable. But, as Ben has rightly and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9359">repeatedly</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9442">noted</a>,  this assumption is a pretty basic logical mistake. I have never said that everything which falls in Thill&#8217;s category of &#8220;common sense&#8221; is false, or even that most of it is. I am merely saying this: the bare fact that a claim falls within the category of common sense is insufficient reason to consider the claim worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable. Each claim must be accepted on its own merits, based on the variety of sources of knowledge we have available to us (logic, perception, trustworthy authority). The fact that something is learned without specialized training does not make it worthy of belief, any more than the fact that it is learned with specialized training. </p>
<p>This point (in addition to brevity) is why I entitled the earlier post &#8220;lack of training is not reliable&#8221; rather than &#8220;beliefs achieved without training are not reliable.&#8221; Some beliefs obtained without specialized training are indeed reliable, in the sense discussed here; but their reliability does not stem from the absence of specialized training. I reiterate: the fact of a belief&#8217;s being learned without specialized training does not make that belief worthy of being accepted as true or reasonable &#8211; let alone actually make the belief true. </p>
<p>One further note: So far I have been pushing ahead with objections to the common-sense advocates&#8217; views and their logical flaws. I have not yet addressed a central objection that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/#comment-9059">they</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/lack-of-training-is-not-reliable/#comment-9025">have</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9357">made</a> to my view: that ways of knowing other than common sense (such as science) themselves depend for their reliability on common sense itself. This point should be addressed, especially given some of the claims I have just made in this post, and I intend to do so. (Ben has already made some <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/07/is-common-sense-merely-plausible/#comment-9440">important points</a> on the topic.) I intend to take it up in a post soon, but this one is already long enough. Let us discuss the matters here in the meantime.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several of this blog&#8217;s frequent commenters find significant philosophical value in the concept of &#8220;common sense,&#8221; and find it helpful to refute a claim on the grounds that the claim contradicts &#8220;common sense.&#8221; These commenters include not only Thill, whom I challenged on the topic <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-prejudice-of-common-sense/">several</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/science-is-not-common-sense/">times</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-inadequacy-of-primary-theory/">before</a>, but Jabali108 and Neocarvaka. (See the comments on <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/06/what-the-kharo%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%ADhi-fragments-dont-imply-for-us/">this post</a> for examples.) So the concept is worth revisiting if those debates are to get anywhere.</p>
<p>Let me start out by noting that I see some philosophical value in appeals to common sense defined in a certain way. This is the sense that I outlined in my <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-prejudice-of-common-sense/">first post</a> on the topic: the prejudgements one brings to a given inquiry, especially as they come out of shared assumptions of one&#8217;s own society. My commenters seem to have something quite different in mind, however. <span id="more-1933"></span> Thill said so explicitly in his first <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-prejudice-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-4631">reply</a>: he understands &#8220;common sense&#8221; <em>not</em> as socially shared assumptions or presuppositions, but as something else, something one might describe as more objective. His most recent (and probably clearest) <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/glenn-walliss-buddhist-manifesto/#comment-5208">statement</a> on the subject contrasts common sense with &#8220;special training, e.g., items of scientific, technological, or aesthetic knowledge, scientific, technological, or aesthetic ways of knowing, and scientific, technological, or aesthetic standards of reasonableness,&#8221; and also with the paranormal or supernatural; but this ordinary or untrained sense, he claims, still provides us with reliable access to knowledge. (I discuss Thill&#8217;s exposition of &#8220;common sense&#8221; here because he has so far spelled it out more explicitly than the others.)</p>
<p>One must first note that the information that one learns without special training can be wrong. The point is clearest with respect to natural science, for the information one learns with scientific training so often contradicts the information one receives without it. I have returned repeatedly to a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/science-is-not-common-sense/">key example</a>: untrained inference tell human beings that the sun goes up and comes down in the sky, in a manner similar to a baseball being launched and landing. This is a clear case in which &#8220;common sense&#8221; as Thill understands it is demonstrably wrong. Thill <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/science-is-not-common-sense/#comment-4678">twice</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-inadequacy-of-primary-theory/#comment-4899">gave</a> a wholly inadequate reply, based around the inarguable point that &#8220;Science does not deny that we perceive sunrise and sunset.&#8221; But that evades the important issue. The question I asked <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/science-is-not-common-sense/#comment-4698">multiple</a> <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-inadequacy-of-primary-theory/#comment-4899">times</a> in response is: what is it that our supposed common sense tells us about the sun? Does it tell us merely that the sun is <em>perceived</em> to rise and fall (even though it actually doesn&#8217;t)? Then we can depend on common sense only to tell us about appearance and not about the truth of the matter; specialized training supersedes common sense when it comes to truth. Or does common sense tell us that the sun <em>really does</em> rise and fall? Then common sense is wrong in this case and can be wrong in other cases too, and we need specialized training to be able to tell when it is wrong and when it is right.</p>
<p>We made some progress in a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/glenn-walliss-buddhist-manifesto/#comment-5178">discussion</a> tangential to a more recent post. Here, as far as I can tell, Thill effectively admitted for the first time that common sense is fallible. It can be wrong; the fact that something is perceptible to the untrained, or widely understood among them, does not automatically make it correct. </p>
<p>This position appears to be a (welcome) change from a <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/11/the-prejudice-of-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-4631">previous definition</a> of common sense, as &#8220;the stock of Truths pertaining to the world naturally accessible to normal human beings anywhere on this planet and the faculties of the ordinary human mind employed in gaining access to those truths&#8230;&#8221; Fortunately, Thill is no longer treating common sense as true by definition, as he did in that previous definition. For then it would have been a useless tautology for establishing the truth: if common sense is necessarily true, then it does us no good to say that something is true because it is common sense, for that is merely saying it is true because it is true. To establish that something was common sense, we would need to establish its truth <em>first</em>, or we would not really have established that it was in fact common sense.</p>
<p>Rather, Thill&#8217;s admission that common sense is fallible comes in the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/12/glenn-walliss-buddhist-manifesto/#comment-5190">context</a> of distinguishing the infallible from the <em>reliable</em>. He compares common sense to visual perception: our eyes are fallible, as through optical illusions or hallucinations. But despite the existence of illusions and hallucinations, we can <em>generally</em> rely on our the evidence of our eyes, and we will be right the vast majority of the time.</p>
<p>But what reasons do we have to believe that &#8220;common sense&#8221; is indeed reliable at all, let alone reliable to the degree that visual perception is reliable? The latter claim is a most extraordinary one &#8211; and one for which I have seen precious little evidence or argument proffered. If the world can be known so easily without training, one wonders why one would ever bother with any training at all &#8211; including scientific training, which Thill has explicitly included among the kinds of training not necessary for common sense.</p>
<p>Science proves &#8220;common sense&#8221; wrong in a great many ways; sunrise and sunset are only the most obvious. Common sense tells us that a piece of rock is a continuous, solid whole; science tells us that in fact it is made of separate atoms that do not touch each other but are kept apart by force. Common sense even tells us that something as perfectly suited for its work as the human hand or eye could not have happened merely by random chance: the only non-biological phenomena we see with that degree of adaptation are the products of deliberate intentional design, by humans or other animals (such as a beaver dam or beehive). One can see this point without any specialized training; and when one does so, one is wrong. </p>
<p>But such situations, of course, are exactly what one should expect. People who think and train hard to learn about a given matter for a long period of time learn things about that matter that untrained people do not. It should come as no surprise that scientists know the workings of the natural world better than those with no scientific training, for they have worked long and hard at establishing conclusions that are better than everyday ones. To say that they do not is the lowest form of know-nothing populism. And similarly, though their methods are often different from scientists and though they are often wrong themselves, the views of the great philosophers are nevertheless usually more adequate and more profound than those of untrained &#8220;common sense.&#8221;  Thinking about something longer usually makes you understand it better; if anything should be obvious to the untrained, it&#8217;s <em>that</em> point. </p>
<p>I have argued before that this is the great problem with relying too heavily on <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/against-moral-intuitions/">&#8220;intuitions&#8221;</a> in ethics as well: there should be no primacy given to untrained knowledge. The whole point of training in something is to do better at it than do the untrained. There is no reason why the burden of proof should be on the trained. Rather, it should be on those who go against common sense in the <em>first</em> sense: the existing assumptions and prejudgements with which a debate implicitly begins. </p>
<p>I fully expect to get debate on the points above; but let me offer one caveat before it begins. You will be wasting your time if you try to refute anything I have said here with a comment like the first one <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/10/hegel-in-space/#comment-4581">here</a>: &#8220;It is a non-sequitur to conclude that something must be good or great on the basis that a few or many have been reading or subscribing to it for a significant number of years. Just take a look at the history of superstition, religion, theology, ethics, and philosophy!&#8221; That history is exactly what I have been looking at in considerable depth for many years myself, and it is exactly that study that has convinced me the great thinkers of the past are much smarter than you or me, however many points they might be wrong about. I have little patience for that sort of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petitio_principii">question begging</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most recent book from Donald S. Lopez, Jr., one of the most widely read contemporary American scholars of Buddhism, is entitled Buddhism and Science. Unlike most books with this title, it does not explore similarities or complementarities between Buddhist tradition and the natural sciences. It is instead best described by Lopez&#8217;s original intended subtitle: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most recent book from Donald S. Lopez, Jr., one of the most widely read contemporary American scholars of Buddhism, is entitled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Science-Guide-Perplexed-Modernity/dp/0226493121">Buddhism and Science</a>. Unlike most books with this title, it does not explore similarities or complementarities between Buddhist tradition and the natural sciences. It is instead best described by Lopez&#8217;s original intended subtitle: <em>A Historical Critique</em>. Alas, Lopez&#8217;s publishers apparently thought this subtitle boring, and therefore required him to replace it; his chosen replacement, <em>A Guide for the Perplexed</em>, is not particularly exciting either, and more importantly makes it impossible for the casual reader to find out the ways that this book is drastically different from all the other books out there with the same title. </p>
<p>I am not here to write about dreadful editorial decisions, however, but rather the content of the book. Lopez undertakes what has become one of the most standard methodologies in the contemporary academic humanities: following Foucault and ultimately Nietzsche, it is typically known as <em>genealogy</em>. One starts with a widely used contemporary concept and goes on to show the history of its usage, in order to create doubts among those who might otherwise use it. This has already been done plenty of times both for the concepts of &#8220;Buddhism&#8221; and of &#8220;science&#8221;; Lopez&#8217;s project here is instead a genealogy of the joint concept of &#8220;Buddhism <em>and</em> science,&#8221; the frequent form of inquiry that tries to link the two conceptually or analytically. As is typical for contemporary genealogies ever since <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)">Edward Said</a> (though not for Foucault&#8217;s own and certainly not Nietzsche&#8217;s), Lopez finds the origins of &#8220;Buddhism and science&#8221; in the colonial nineteenth century. He shows us that claims about Buddhism&#8217;s compatibility with science remain remarkably consistent from the late 19th century to the early 21st, even though the science itself has changed drastically.  </p>
<p>Now what is the purpose of showing us this point? From Nietzsche onward, the genealogical method has never been neutral. The point has always been to undermine. Lopez doesn&#8217;t like &#8220;Buddhism and science&#8221; any more than Nietzsche liked morality. <span id="more-1886"></span> But Lopez is shier than Nietzsche in proclaiming his distaste for the topic of his genealogy. In a followup article published in the &#8220;religion and science&#8221; journal <a href="http://www.zygonjournal.org/">Zygon</a> last December, Lopez brings out an &#8220;argumentative thesis&#8221; which, he claims, was only &#8220;implied&#8221; in his book:</p>
<blockquote><p>that claims for the compatibility of Buddhism and science have been made in surprisingly consistent rhetorical forms over the course of more than a century and a half, years in which huge advances have occurred in the natural sciences. What is understood by &#8220;Buddhism&#8221; also has changed considerably over the period. That the claim has remained the same while the meaning of the two nouns — <em>Buddhism, science</em> — has changed so greatly raises a simple question that should give us pause: If Buddhism (however this abstract noun is understood) was compatible with the science of the nineteenth century, how can it also be compatible with the science of the twenty-first? Perhaps it never was, and perhaps it is not now. The more interesting question is why the claim continues to be made.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now of all the seemingly innocuous words that merit a genealogy of their own, perhaps the most important is this &#8220;interesting,&#8221; so often claimed without argument. What interests tenured scholars of ancient languages is, to put it mildly, often not what interests most people who now live or ever have lived. So when such a scholar uses the word &#8220;interesting&#8221; as an adjective to denote a property intrinsic to his subject matter itself, as opposed to merely claiming his own personal interest in the subject, we should at least be alert to what <em>makes</em> it so supposedly interesting. In this particular case, the question of &#8220;why the claim [of Buddhism's compatibility with science] continues to be made&#8221; is <em>only</em> more interesting <em>if the claim happens to be false</em>. If it is <em>true</em> that Buddhism (however understood) is compatible in important respects with the science of whatever century, the question at issue — why the claim of compatibility is made — ceases to be an interesting one for anyone without an obsessive interest in minutiae. For if this claim is true, then the odds are that that&#8217;s the reason it&#8217;s being made.</p>
<p>But to actually declare the claim false? That is where Lopez, like most Buddhologists of the present age, refuses to go. In the <em>Zygon</em> article he casually tosses off this bombshell in the middle of a sentence: &#8220;no scholar of Buddhism can say what Buddhism should be.&#8221; (Lest I be accused of quoting Lopez out of context, I&#8217;ll give the whole sentence: &#8220;For, although no scholar of Buddhism can say what Buddhism should be, a scholar can say, or at least speculate on the basis of historical evidence, what Buddhism has been for Buddhists across Asia, extending back over more than two millennia.&#8221; (891)) The claim is of course false. Buddhism should be a tradition that teaches us important, provocative and potentially true ideas about the nature of reality, how we should live in it, and the practices that will best enable us to do so. I have a PhD in South Asian Buddhism from Harvard University; I am therefore a scholar of Buddhism. And I have just said what Buddhism should be. Obviously, a scholar of Buddhism <em>can</em> say this.</p>
<p>What Lopez presumably means to say is that scholars <em>should</em> not say what Buddhism should be. But the &#8220;implied argumentative thesis&#8221; above, and indeed the whole book, are important precisely because of their implications for what Buddhism should be. Lopez&#8217;s timid rhetorical questions and &#8220;perhaps&#8221; are a still-timid way of phrasing the motivation behind the book: Lopez likely <em>wants</em> to claim that Buddhism and science <em>are not</em> compatible, not without doing violence to one or the other. If his genealogy were as forceful as Nietzsche&#8217;s, he would be able to come right out and say this. But just as Robert Gimello&#8217;s class <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/05/anti-protestant-presuppositions-in-the-study-of-buddhism/">contained a Catholic apologetic disguised as neutral Buddhist studies</a>, so Lopez keeps up the engaged and partisan genealogical method under the guise of neutrality.</p>
<p>Lopez and Gimello share a familiar critique of modernist Buddhism, the Buddhism I have called <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-what-it-is/">Yavanayāna</a>. Lopez claims he is trying to call attention to what is lost when it is claimed that Buddhism and science are compatible. I would say that that&#8217;s fair enough &#8211; except that this mournful scholarly expression of loss always seems to be directed against the Yavanayāna target. You don&#8217;t hear such scholars worry about <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-a-defence/">what is lost in Chinese schools</a> of Buddhism that proclaim that material things have an enduring or even eternal existence and we are all already buddhas &#8211; directly contradicting some of the most fundamental teachings of the early Buddhist schools. If you&#8217;re going to try and worry us about what is lost in &#8220;Buddhism and science,&#8221; when are you going to try and worry us about what is lost in Tiantai? </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a great discussion going on in the comments to last week&#8217;s post on humility and science. This week I&#8217;m going to focus on only one of the themes mentioned, which takes us in a different direction from that post but is interesting in its own right. My post recounted Carl Sagan&#8217;s claim that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a great discussion going on in the comments to <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/">last week&#8217;s post</a> on humility and science. This week I&#8217;m going to focus on only one of the themes mentioned, which takes us in a different direction from that post but is interesting in its own right.</p>
<p>My post recounted Carl Sagan&#8217;s claim that although &#8220;religions&#8221; claimed an ideal of humility, science was actually more humble; I argued that the two were in fact very similar. A <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7671">comment from Ben</a> acutely pointed out something I had been missing, a way in which Sagan was right that the tradition was different. Sagan, Ben points out, is defending &#8220;not the humility of individuals, but the humility of the whole tradition.&#8221; Science as a whole is able to admit when it is wrong, in a way that Christianity and Buddhism are not. In a following dialogue, Ben and I agree that science maintains an institutional humility that &#8220;religious&#8221; traditions do not, though those other traditions likely do a better job of promoting individual humility.</p>
<p>Other commenters took issue with this agreement, however. If you follow the comment threads on this site with any regularity, you will know that <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7683">Thill</a> and <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7693">Jim Wilton</a> do not usually agree on very much. But this time, they unanimously condemn the point shared by Ben and myself: &#8220;There is a category mistake here,&#8221; says Thill. &#8220;Traditions cannot be said to be humble or arrogant. Only individuals can be said to be humble or arrogant.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this is a question that well deserves further philosophical exploration.  Can an institution or a tradition possess a virtue? Can a government be courageous? Can a corporation be honest? Can a tradition be humble? <span id="more-1850"></span></p>
<p>The answer will necessarily be &#8220;no&#8221; if we define &#8220;virtue&#8221; (or any of its species) strictly, so that virtue is by definition individual. But I see no clear reason why we should do this. Going back to earliest accounts of the concept, Aristotle does not limit virtue to individuals; in explaining <i>aretē</i>, the word we translate as &#8220;virtue,&#8221; he speaks of the <i>aretē</i> of a knife: a virtuous (or excellent) knife is one that cuts well. Even thinking of common English usage, we can speak of an honest car dealership, one where all the sales staff are genuinely expected to be upfront with their customers and act accordingly. We can speak of a courageous action taken by a political party, when it adopts a platform that is politically unpopular but is nevertheless the principled thing to do. </p>
<p>Now common usage can and should be criticized; everyday speech is often inaccurate. Are these examples of category mistakes? Virtue is realized and expressed in action; if human collectivities can take action, that fact suggests that they can also be virtuous. But is it inaccurate to speak of an action taken by a collectivity? When we speak of an honest car dealership, a generous government or a humble tradition, is this merely an inexact way to say that these collectivities are generally made up of honest, generous or humble individuals?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so, at least not necessarily. The idea that the virtues or actions of collectivities are <i>merely</i> those of their constituent individuals &#8211; this puts me in mind of Margaret Thatcher&#8217;s famous quip that &#8220;there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.&#8221; But in this very quote Thatcher shows that she&#8217;s not ready to carry a reductionist individualism all the way: there are families, which she grants an existence distinct from the individuals who make them up. If families are not merely the individuals that make them up, then surely other institutions &#8211; including society itself &#8211; can also be more than their constituent individuals.</p>
<p>Collectivities can take on a life of their own. (I say &#8220;collectivities&#8221; rather than &#8220;groups&#8221; because the latter term tends to connote a mere aggregation of individuals, prejudicing the discussion in that direction.) We understand this point when we make the important distinction between the rule of law and the rule of men (or women). A government (or a corporation) works best when its members act not according to their arbitrary individual preferences, but according to the interest of the whole organization and the precedents that have been collectively established. When an organization successfully acts according to the rule of law, it is that organization as a unit and a whole, and not merely the individual members who make it up, that is acting justly. It is a just organization, not merely a bunch of individuals who happen to be just by themselves. To describe the organization as just is no category mistake; it is correct.</p>
<p>It is in terms similar to these that I think one may accurately speak of the humility of a tradition &#8211; and as something quite separate from the humility of individuals. As Jabali108 <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7685">noted</a>, defining the terms matters here. I set out a basic sketch of the idea of a tradition <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/descriptive-and-normative-meanings-of-science-and-other-traditions/">two weeks ago</a>, as consisting of both a normative ideal and a set of institutions which often does not live up to that ideal. Thill, rightly I think, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/descriptive-and-normative-meanings-of-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7570">pointed out</a> a third separable element of a tradition: its body of accumulated knowledge.</p>
<p>As for humility, I take it to mean the awareness of one&#8217;s limits and weaknesses, not only in an intellectual sense but also in a practical one &#8211; acting on the recognition that one is fallible and dependent on others. In a more specifically intellectual or epistemological sense, it means listening carefully, recognizing that one has never thought of everything, that others very often have something valuable to contribute &#8211; even when one maintains the courage to defend one&#8217;s own sincerely held convictions. Above all, perhaps, the readiness to admit when one has been wrong. A mean between the vices of arrogance on one hand and meekness or timidity on the other, as I <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/humility-in-science-and-other-traditions/#comment-7676">said to Thill</a>. (If this definition seems imprecise, that&#8217;s intentional: spelling out the nature of a virtue too precisely implies that one already knows exactly what to strive for, which in my books itself demonstrates a lack of humility.)</p>
<p>On these terms I defend my previous claim, developed with Ben: natural science maintains an institutional humility as a tradition, because it does not take its claims as infallible, is ready to see them overturned when better evidence comes to light. The ideals of scientific tradition encourage its institutions to act in a humble way. This institutional humility is a very different thing from encouraging the humility of individuals; and indeed the two are in distinct tension with one another. When a tradition emphasizes its own unchanging rightness, as Buddhism or Christianity does, it is much more likely to foster a sense of individual humility &#8211; a recognition that one as an individual doesn&#8217;t have all the answers, that one has been wrong before. I think this is typically a good thing for the individual within the tradition; but it&#8217;s not so good for the health of the tradition itself. Science is a whole made humble by its arrogant members; the &#8220;religions&#8221; are wholes made arrogant by their humble members.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve lately been reading and enjoying The Demon-Haunted World, Carl Sagan&#8216;s manifesto against pseudoscientifc beliefs (such as alien abductions). One of the more enjoyable and thought-provoking sections of the book is a discussion of scientists&#8217; humility: &#8220;I maintain that science is part and parcel humility. Scientists do not seek to impose their needs and wants [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lately been reading and enjoying <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=q_Fp3tjPnkwC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=demon+haunted+world&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=juxV4wh5oR&#038;sig=j8l4vkYG65A2syd6fVa36egzS_M&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=FRGWTb7fGu-K0QHdzIz5Cw&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=9&#038;ved=0CF0Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">The Demon-Haunted World</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan">Carl Sagan</a>&#8216;s manifesto against pseudoscientifc beliefs (such as alien abductions). One of the more enjoyable and thought-provoking sections of the book is a discussion of scientists&#8217; humility: &#8220;I maintain that science is part and parcel humility. Scientists do not seek to impose their needs and wants on Nature, but instead humbly interrogate Nature and take seriously what they find. We are aware that revered scientists have been wrong. We understand human imperfection.&#8221; (32) The ideal scientist humbles herself before the truths about the natural world that she finds in her work. He quotes his wife Ann Druyan to the effect that science &#8220;is forever whispering in our ears, &#8216;Remember, you&#8217;re very new at this. You might be mistaken. You&#8217;ve been wrong before.&#8217;&#8221; (34-5) I hadn&#8217;t thought of science in these terms before, but I think Sagan is quite right about this &#8211; to an extent, as I&#8217;ll discuss below. Sagan repeatedly and rightly stresses the importance of uncertainty for a scientist; to live up to the ideals of scientific research requires the ability to admit we are wrong. A scientist must never be too confident in her own rightness; what first seems obvious is often exactly what turns out to be wrong, overthrown by the evidence. I think this is excellent advice for scientists to follow &#8211; or anyone else.</p>
<p>After quoting Druyan, Sagan proceeds immediately to add: &#8220;Despite all the talk of humility, show me something comparable in religion.&#8221; And this is where he goes astray. <span id="more-1841"></span> For the answer is right there in that very sentence. Talk of humility &#8211; humility as an ideal &#8211; is <i>directly</i> comparable to Druyan&#8217;s quote, which is, of course, itself talk. And there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. Ideals are good things to live up to. It&#8217;s just that in practice we fail to do so.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/chastened-intellectualism-and-practice/">chastened intellectualists</a> named by Aaron Stalnaker &#8211; the Christian Augustine and the Confucian Xunzi &#8211; tell us exactly the idea spoken in Druyan&#8217;s &#8220;whisper.&#8221; In the few decades we humans have on earth, we remain very new at this whole living thing. We may well be mistaken about a great deal; we have been wrong before. Even our reason can mislead us, a point on which they <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/01/freud-the-chastened-intellectualist/">agree with Freud</a>: too often it serves only to come up with rationalizations for the troublesome desires that are in fact bad for us. I have <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/07/monotheists-humility/">argued before</a> that humility is, if anything, even more important for Judaism and Islam &#8211; for there the gulf between imperfect humans and perfect God is far greater than it is in Augustine&#8217;s Christianity, where a human being could be God.</p>
<p>Sagan&#8217;s reference to &#8220;talk&#8221; suggests a gap between ideals and practice. We are all too familiar with the arrogance of zealots, the Bible-thumping preacher and the unpersuadable New Age Buddhist who refuse to admit any doubts in their views. Such people fail to live up to their traditions&#8217; own &#8220;talk of humility,&#8221; the ideal that Sagan himself identifies: they fail to acknowledge that they are mere humans and not an omniscient God or Buddha. But once we acknowledge that humility here is a gap between ideals and practice, then science does not seem so very different. It is not clear how often science changes because those who held falsified ideas recant them, and how often it changes because those whose beliefs didn&#8217;t fit the evidence simply die off. Here we are dealing with my point from <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2011/04/descriptive-and-normative-meanings-of-science-and-other-traditions/">last week</a>: in scientific tradition as in &#8220;religious&#8221; traditions, there is a gap between theory and practice, the normative ideal the tradition advocates and the historical institutions charged with bringing that ideal to life. </p>
<p>This gap can be bridged, of course. Sagan does about as good a job as anyone can at the difficult (because paradoxical) task of demonstrating his own humility, when on pages 256-7 he comes out to list several cases where he has been proven wrong. But in this he is not so far from Augustine, whose Confessions is a book-length account of the various ways he has been wrong in his life to this point &#8211; and a painful acknowledgement of the ways he still falls short of the ideal. </p>
<p>There, Sagan (like Augustine) personally lives up to the ideal of humility he espouses. What he doesn&#8217;t show us is humility in the scientific tradition he advocates for. In arguing that science is humble in practice as well as theory, he proudly claims that &#8220;We give our highest rewards to those who convincingly disprove established beliefs.&#8221; He proceeds to cite several examples of cases where young and up-and-coming scientists have managed to overturn ideas previously cherished. But this is no example of humility. It is no humility at all to show how <i>someone else</i> is wrong. Typically, that is the very opposite of humility, which requires acknowledging where <i>you</i> have been wrong. To reward those who generate new ideas and disprove the old can <i>encourage</i> an arrogance that goes against the scientific ideal. For if your data only serve to confirm your null hypothesis &#8211; the existing established views &#8211; you may well be tempted to fudge that data to get the new and exciting view you wanted, the one that is rewarded. The academic humanities and social sciences often proceed similarly on the model of rewarding those who demonstrate new things, and I can vouch those who have been so rewarded tend to have outsized egos.</p>
<p>Humility is hard work, harder than many other virtues. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Comte-Sponville">André Comte-Sponville</a> calls it a contradictory virtue, because he who claims to have it does not. One of the more reliable ways to get it is to submit to the ideals of an established tradition, rather than exalting your independent ideals as the highest good. In this respect, scientific tradition is quite comparable to the traditions we call &#8220;religious.&#8221;</p>
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