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		<title>The Catholic Pauls against nondualism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A curious phenomenon in the study of South Asian and especially Buddhist traditions is the number of Catholic scholars named Paul who have approached these traditions &#8211; and especially what Skholiast has called their ātmanism &#8211; with a critical eye. The two thinkers I have primarily in mind are the late Paul Hacker (whom I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A curious phenomenon in the study of South Asian and especially Buddhist traditions is the number of Catholic scholars named Paul who have approached these traditions &#8211; and especially what <a href="http://speculumcriticum.blogspot.com/">Skholiast</a> has called their <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">ātmanism</a> &#8211; with a critical eye. The two thinkers I have primarily in mind are the late Paul Hacker (whom I discussed <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">last time</a>, and the living <a href="http://www.bristol.ac.uk/thrs/staff/pw.html">Paul Williams</a>. (The thought of <a href="http://www.divinity.duke.edu/portal_memberdata/pgriffiths">Paul J. Griffiths</a>, who moved in his writings from Buddhology to Catholic theology, bears a strong resemblances to these other Pauls, though I have less to say about him today.) That these men are all named Paul can only be a coincidence. That they are all Catholic is less so; for there are striking affinities in the ways that they (in many respects independently of one another) approach South Asian and Buddhist tradition, affinities that are far less coincidental.<br />
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Hacker, as I noted <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">last time</a>, attacked the key figures of modern Hinduism, which he called &#8220;neo-Hinduism&#8221; and which I think <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/08/did-hinduism-exist/">the term &#8220;Hinduism&#8221; should probably be reserved for</a>. For Hacker, men like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Vivekananda">Swami Vivekānanda</a> made a mockery of Indian tradition, by creating something new that claimed itself to be old. The general historical question here parallels questions about <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/07/yavanayana-buddhism-a-defence/">Yavanayāna Buddhism</a>: much of what we take now as authentic Asian tradition is new and at least partially Western, but that does not necessarily make it illegitimate.</p>
<p>So far, it&#8217;s pretty much the usual story of 19th-century reform. But Hacker takes his critique much further than the basic historical point, and this is where it gets interesting to me. Hacker&#8217;s special ire, beyond his general disdain for modern Hinduism, is reserved for the <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">&#8220;<i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic&#8221;</a>, the idea that because we are all ultimately one infinite spirit (&#8220;you are that,&#8221; as the <a href="http://www.swamij.com/upanishad-chandogya.htm">Chāndogya Upaniṣad</a> supposedly claims), we should help each other because we are really helping ourselves. For Hacker, it is not merely the case that classical Advaita Vedānta thinkers never adopted an altruistic or activistic <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/08/schopenhauer-and-the-tat-tvam-asi-ethic/">ethics based on the <i>tat tvam asi</i></a> of the Chāndogya Upaniṣad, but that they <i>could not have</i>. For, Hacker claims, &#8220;From the philosophical point of view, to base the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic on the foundation of the Vedāntic monism of consciousness is a logical impossibility.&#8221; (&#8220;Schopenhauer and Hindu ethics,&#8221; p. 305) On the next page he goes on to describe the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic not merely as a &#8220;logical impossibility&#8221; but as a &#8220;logical <i>monstrosity</i>.&#8221; (p. 305, my emphasis) Hacker wants to show the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic is a modern invention because, in his mind, the great Vedāntic sages of old were way too wise to ever have fallen for such a load of garbage.</p>
<p>What is it about Vivekānanda&#8217;s <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic, in Hacker&#8217;s mind, that makes it logically impossible and even monstrous? For Hacker, genuinely ethical behaviour &#8211; by which he means altruistic behaviour &#8211; depends on the existence of separate persons, whose differences are irreducible:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ethical behavior presupposes an interpersonal relationship, which loses its metaphysical justification if individual personhood has no ultimate reality&#8230;. Neither the monism of will nor the monism of consciousness or spirit has a real place for the concept of person. But when this concept is not taken seriously, ethics remains on a naturalistic level; that is, there is no true ethics, good and evil have no truly metaphysical relevance, and ultimately there are only ways of realizing or veiling the impersonal universal One&#8230;. There is no sense in which an identification of a &#8220;that&#8221; with a &#8220;thou,&#8221; such as we have in <i>tat tvam asi</i>, can explain why good and bad behavior exist. Interpersonal relationship is not identity, and it is certainly not identity of a person with an impersonal being.</p></blockquote>
<p>As philosophical argument I do not think this goes very far, not by itself anyway. Much of it depends on the semi-tautological identification of &#8220;ethics&#8221; with altruism. If one acknowledges that an ethics can be based on self-interest and that other-interest can be grounded in self-interest, then there seems little logical problem here: the <i>tat tvam asi</i> ethic might not really or ultimately be altruistic, but so what? Even in historical terms, Hacker seems to be on poor ground in believing that such a monistic ethic is purely modern. Hugh van Skyhawk, replying to Hacker in the 74th (1993) volume of the <a href="http://www.bori.ac.in/publications.htm#c1">Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute</a>, argued that a similar view was found in the sixteenth-century <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathi_people">Marathi</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varkari">poet-saint</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eknath">Eknath</a> (also spelled Ekanāth or Ekanātha). Eknath told his listeners (in Skyhawk&#8217;s translation) that the true yogī &#8220;immediately gives up his own interests and ventures into difficulties for the sake of others&#8221;; and argues for such altruism on strongly nondualist grounds: </p>
<blockquote><p>He, for whom there is no more “I” and “mine” and “thee” and “thine” by virtue of the contact with the worship of the divine non-duality and the Self is called the highest bhakta. If he gives his fortune (nijavitta) to another, no misgivings arise in his citta. He does not even sense a trace of alienation. No feelings of doubt arise. The object in the right hand is given to the left hand. Who is the giver here? Who is the receiver?</p></blockquote>
<p>Overall, then, Hacker&#8217;s arguments against monist ethics aren&#8217;t particularly persuasive. What excites me about Hacker&#8217;s arguments is his reasons for making them. Wilhelm Halbfass&#8217;s introduction to his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=k91ZnWPTwXoC&#038;dq=philology+confrontation&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=G79RTJ6pHoH6lwfZ-pyhBg&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">collection of Hacker&#8217;s writings</a> stresses the increasing importance in Hacker&#8217;s work of his conversion to Roman Catholicism. And Catholicism, it seems to me, stresses <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/wilbers-atmanism-vs-the-saints-encounter/">encounter over ātmanism</a>: it is all about one&#8217;s relationship to a God with whom one is not identical.</p>
<p>The point is highlighted in the much more powerful arguments of another Catholic Paul, Paul Williams. Williams, to my knowledge, says nothing about Hacker in his work; since Williams is a Buddhologist, he may well be entirely unaware of Hacker. And yet Williams&#8217;s criticism of Śāntideva (in the final chapters of his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=f3j5lbbjjb8C&#038;dq=williams+altruism+reality&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bn&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=bOFRTIXzCoaglAfbk6zJBQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=4&#038;ved=0CCMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">Altruism and Reality</a> parallels Hacker&#8217;s criticism of Vivekānanda in remarkable ways. Among Śāntideva&#8217;s most famous passages (now even excerpted in an <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=pPXt7bd-E4EC&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;dq=david+cooper+ethics&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=kZTmbuToS0&#038;sig=cr3GqyPEHlrzzZZKa3naj0ouxzo&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=a-RRTLjKFYaKlweBkoHeBA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&#038;q&#038;f=false">introductory ethics text</a>) is his &#8220;equalization of self and other&#8221; in verses VIII.90-119 of the Bodhicaryāvatāra, in which he argues that, since the self is an illusion (a standard Buddhist view), egoistic action does not make logical sense and we should be altruistic (an innovation of his). Śāntideva is not a monist like Vivekānanda; he is strongly opposed to the Vedāntic idea of a universal cosmic self. Nevertheless, there is a close parallel in that both Śāntideva and Vivekānanda try to deconstruct our ideas of self in order to deconstruct ethical egoism and urge altruistic action. And so Williams&#8217;s criticisms of Śāntideva turn out on similar lines to Hacker&#8217;s criticisms of Vivekānanda.</p>
<p>Unlike Hacker, Williams makes no attempt at historical criticism; Williams has no doubt that Śāntideva actually believed all this. He simply thinks that Śāntideva is dead wrong. In thinking and arguing this, he has provoked a strong reaction among Buddhologists, no less than five of whom (Barbra Clayton, John Pettit, Jon Wetlesen, Mark Siderits and José Cabezón) have tried to refute him in print. I&#8217;m not going to examine today whether Williams is right or wrong (it is a complex question); but I want to explore important points in his arguments.</p>
<p>What Williams claims, against Śāntideva, is that there can be no compassion unless there are persons feeling the compassion for other persons. Compassion requires the existence of persons feeling suffering; without sufferers, there is no suffering and no compassion. (T.R. (Thill) Raghunath made a similar argument in a recent <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/06/trusting-in-man-trusting-in-god/#comment-2352">comment</a>.) If the self is deconstructed, so too is suffering, and indeed perhaps all reasons for action. </p>
<p>Both Paul Hacker and Paul Williams, then, are trying to tell us: you cannot have it both ways. Either you can have a nondual view (monist or otherwise) that deconstructs our everyday selves, <i>or</i> you can have the commitment to altruistic alleviation of others&#8217; suffering. The two don&#8217;t make sense together; and the first certainly isn&#8217;t an <i>argument</i> for the second.</p>
<p>Such a view seems to me to have profound roots in the Abrahamic monotheisms; while the Pauls in question are Catholic, one could surely also imagine it being made by a Jew. For indeed the criticism reminds me strongly of Emmanuel Lévinas and his insistence on the irreducible otherness of other people &#8211; with God as the ultimate other. (For breaking down the distinction between himself and God, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2010/07/monotheists-humility/">al-Hallāj was tortured and killed</a>.) The ethical deconstruction of self seems important to a nondual view of the world; but to refute such nonduality seems central to theism. (But not only Abrahamic theism: the nineteenth-century Bengali devotional poet Ramprasad Sen criticized nondualism by saying &#8220;I want to taste sugar, not to become sugar.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>Without rebirth, suicide?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve often heard it said, rightly I think, that Buddhism cannot do without a concept of karma; it is too central to Buddhist thought. I don&#8217;t see this as a big problem in itself, even for those (like myself) who would wish to do without the supernatural elements in Buddhism. For karma, as Dale Wright [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often heard it said, rightly I think, that Buddhism cannot do without a concept of karma; it is too central to Buddhist thought. I don&#8217;t see this as a big problem in itself, even for those (like myself) who would wish to do without the supernatural elements in Buddhism. For karma, as Dale Wright has proposed, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/06/naturalizing-karma/">can be naturalized on Aristotelian grounds</a>: virtue makes our lives better, because it makes us happier on the inside. In that sense, our good and bad actions come back to us as good and bad results, without any supernatural causation being involved. Buddhism may require karma, but we can have karma without rebirth.</p>
<p>The question troubling me now is: can we have Buddhism without rebirth? There&#8217;s a basic problem posed here by the First Noble Truth, the classic Buddhist idea that all is <i>dukkha</i>: all is suffering, painful, unsatisfactory, sorrowful, bad. If this is so, why not commit suicide? For a classical Buddhist, <i>rebirth is the answer to this question</i>, and the obvious answer. Suicide makes your <i>dukkha</i> even worse; as a bad, un-dharmic activity, it will trap you in a far worse rebirth, leave you far more sorrowful and suffering than you are. </p>
<p>But if there is no rebirth? Then death starts to look disturbingly like nirvana. <span id="more-846"></span> The <i>sutta</i>s are cagey about describing <i>nibb?na</i>; they&#8217;re more ready to say what it is not, and it is not like the sorrowful existence we face in worldly <i>sa?s?ra</i>. Etymologically, the Pali or Sanskrit word connotes &#8220;extinguishing,&#8221; like blowing out a candle. When they do venture to characterize nirvana the <i>sutta</i>s identify it as peaceful, tranquil, undisturbed. And in those same <i>sutta</i>s, while one can attain nirvana in life, the <i>death</i> of a person who has attained nirvana is spoken of as the highest nirvana, <i>parinibb?na</i>. The cycle of <i>sa?s?ra</i> and rebirth, on the other hand, is characterized as a weary, sorrowful place from which we would do well to escape if only we could. Seen in this light, an anti-supernatural worldview turns out to be oddly good and hopeful news: we don&#8217;t have to go through all the rigours of the Buddhist path to find the end of suffering. We merely have to die. </p>
<p>But if all this is so, the logical consequence seems to be one that would make most Buddhists, and everyone else, uneasy: we should end it all, quickly, with a suicide. </p>
<p>At least, that would seem to be the consequence for Theravāda tradition, in which our own liberation from suffering is paramount. But the consequences for Mahāyāna would seem even grimmer. True, without rebirth, the Mah?y?nist needs to prolong her own life in order to save others from suffering. But how can one best end others&#8217; suffering? One might easily provide the answer: kill them. Universal euthanasia. One avoids suicide so that one can kill others. The conclusion is not as far-fetched as one might wish it were: Wilhelm Halbfass in <i>Tradition and Reflection</i> notes that classical Indian sources refer to a group called the Sa?s?ramocakas, who were said to practise compassionate murder in order to liberate others from suffering. But if we are led to the Sa?s?ramocakas&#8217; position, we have at least <i>prima facie</i> reason to think something has gone seriously wrong, somewhere, with our reasoning.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one can get out of this problem through a deeper examination of the concept of <i>dukkha</i> and its classification. True, the <i>sutta</i>s tell us that there are three kinds of <i>dukkha</i>: basic <i>dukkha</i> (<i>dukkhadukkha</i>), <i>dukkha</i> from change (<i>vipari??madukkha</i>), and <i>dukkha</i> from conditions (<i>sa?kh?radukkha</i>). I&#8217;ve seen some people try and look to this distinction as a solution: for example, <a href="http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/buddhism.htm">this essay by Omar Moad</a> at the British magazine <a href="http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/">The Philosopher</a>. </p>
<p>Only basic <i>dukkha</i> is obviously, visibly, immediately painful or sorrowful, and not everything is basic <i>dukkha</i>, it can be the other kinds. But the thing is, the other two are painful and sorrowful as well &#8211; we just don&#8217;t <i>see</i> it. All three are undeniably bad, and everything is composed of them. And contrary to Moad&#8217;s article, even <i>dukkha</i> from conditions, <i>sa?kh?radukkha</i>, does not merely arise from a limited perspective; it is part of the conditioned nature of things. As Moad notes, for those who have attained proper insight, &#8220;even the most blissful existence as a deva in one of the Buddhist Heavens would seem to be a miserable Hell.&#8221; Buddhists can remain optimistic in that there is a way out of all this &#8211; but that way involves transcending it all. And if rebirth is no longer an issue, one way to transcend it would be through suicide &#8211; or murder, if one is being altruistic.</p>
<p>Is there a way out of the problem? I can see two. The most straightforward approach, <a href="http://loveofallwisdom.com/2009/09/one-and-a-half-noble-truths/">which I have previously taken</a>, is to deny the First Noble Truth: life is <i>good</i>. But in saying this, one denies a great deal of Buddhist tradition, at least as much as one would do by denying karma. A more Buddhist approach would be to take Nāgārjuna&#8217;s M?dhyamika lead and say nirvana is merely sa?s?ra properly viewed, so that the life of the bodhisattva is in fact blissful, much better than mere extinguishing. But if that&#8217;s true, then if we were to somehow know that someone will not become a bodhisattva, then would it not seem that that person is better off dead?</p>
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